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Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:24 PM

Please remember a bunch of us get our news from DU.

Not all of us can peruse news all day, or even get much US news.

Subject lines with no text are incomprehensible sometimes.

Recently I ask what a DU was talking about and I was dismissively told to turn on the news.

Well, ya know, sometimes that just canít happen.

Thanks for future consideration.

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Reply Please remember a bunch of us get our news from DU. (Original post)
LakeArenal Apr 29 OP
AndyS Apr 29 #1
MiHale Apr 29 #2
Scrivener7 Apr 29 #3
Amaryllis Apr 29 #4
Random Boomer Apr 29 #29
Firestorm49 Apr 30 #90
hlthe2b Apr 29 #5
SYFROYH Apr 29 #6
DBoon Apr 30 #93
question everything Apr 30 #102
question everything Apr 29 #7
chia Apr 29 #17
Escurumbele Apr 29 #22
IcyPeas Apr 29 #56
chia Apr 29 #57
question everything Apr 30 #101
question everything Apr 29 #52
left-of-center2012 Apr 29 #27
Celerity Apr 30 #82
llmart Apr 29 #43
soldierant Apr 29 #68
orleans Apr 29 #73
ShazzieB Apr 30 #81
summer_in_TX Apr 30 #84
Scrivener7 Apr 30 #92
DBoon Apr 30 #94
mahina Apr 30 #95
chia Apr 30 #108
Major Nikon Apr 29 #8
Escurumbele Apr 29 #25
DENVERPOPS Apr 29 #55
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 29 #9
stopdiggin Apr 29 #40
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 29 #65
Amaryllis Apr 29 #62
littlemissmartypants Apr 29 #63
Treefrog Apr 30 #110
CanonRay Apr 29 #10
Hekate Apr 29 #11
LeftInTX Apr 29 #18
Rhiannon12866 Apr 30 #78
NewHendoLib Apr 29 #12
Kali Apr 29 #13
LeftInTX Apr 29 #19
Kali Apr 29 #36
Harker Apr 29 #47
lunatica Apr 29 #14
Rhiannon12866 Apr 29 #15
Harker Apr 29 #48
Rhiannon12866 Apr 29 #74
ancianita Apr 29 #50
Rhiannon12866 Apr 30 #109
ancianita Apr 30 #114
MerryHolidays Apr 29 #58
Rhiannon12866 Apr 29 #75
littlemissmartypants Apr 29 #64
Rhiannon12866 Apr 30 #85
littlemissmartypants May 1 #115
quaint Apr 30 #88
chia Apr 29 #16
euphorb Apr 29 #54
ShazzieB Apr 30 #83
left-of-center2012 Apr 29 #20
LeftInTX Apr 29 #21
wcast Apr 29 #23
Kali Apr 29 #38
quickesst Apr 29 #24
LymphocyteLover Apr 29 #26
littlemissmartypants Apr 29 #66
LymphocyteLover Apr 30 #87
Warpy Apr 29 #28
Hekate Apr 29 #41
Warpy Apr 29 #49
crud Apr 29 #30
Atticus Apr 29 #32
Kali Apr 29 #39
smirkymonkey Apr 30 #100
SWBTATTReg Apr 29 #31
KG Apr 29 #33
littlemissmartypants Apr 29 #67
Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 29 #34
NullTuples Apr 29 #35
calimary Apr 29 #37
stopdiggin Apr 29 #42
Generic Brad Apr 29 #44
cinematicdiversions Apr 29 #45
Harker Apr 29 #46
relayerbob Apr 29 #51
euphorb Apr 29 #53
LakeArenal Apr 29 #70
JohnnyRingo Apr 29 #59
Ferrets are Cool Apr 29 #60
LakeArenal Apr 29 #61
leighbythesea2 Apr 29 #69
StClone Apr 29 #71
Rhiannon12866 Apr 30 #79
BobTheSubgenius Apr 29 #72
Martin68 Apr 29 #76
LakeArenal Apr 29 #77
Martin68 Apr 30 #99
LakeArenal Apr 30 #103
Martin68 Apr 30 #104
LakeArenal Apr 30 #105
Martin68 Apr 30 #106
LakeArenal Apr 30 #107
iemanja Apr 30 #80
mrsadm Apr 30 #86
Nuffer Apr 30 #89
llashram Apr 30 #91
mahina Apr 30 #96
Jimvanhise Apr 30 #97
LakeArenal Apr 30 #98
Treefrog Apr 30 #111
LakeArenal Apr 30 #113
trof Apr 30 #112

Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:25 PM

1. YES! nt

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:26 PM

2. Amen! nt

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:27 PM

3. This! This point has been made umpteen times here. And yet people keep making these

content-free posts. It's kind of obnoxious.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:35 PM

4. +1000. Posted several threads on it myself. I was a writing teacher for many years and you'd be

surprised at how many people when they write something are incapable of putting themselves in the place of someone who doesn't know what they know. In other words, seeing from another's perspective.
And it's not just subject lines; many times the post itself assumes we are all watching news all day and doesn't let the reader know what the poster is talking about.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:57 PM

29. Reminds me of a certain Facebook friend of mine

She had a habit of making comments that assumed significant prior knowledge of either specific political events or events in her life. Somehow, other people seemed to immediately know what she was talking about, but even after scanning her posts for the prior week or two, I saw no clues that would help me make sense of what she was referencing.

Providing just a scrap of context would have been very welcome. I finally just stopped following her. Even though we shared liberal political sensibilities, I just don't have time for untangling puzzles.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:15 AM

90. I'm one of the guilty, and now stand corrected. I sometimes find the need to move on rapidly,

and donít add text. Since it is a cause of great consternation, I will mend my ways and slow down a bit, or yes, add the ďnt.Ē

Thanks for pointing it out.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:45 PM

5. +1

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:46 PM

6. I like the DUers who are yelling at their TV, but via a DU OP.


No context whatsoever.

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Response to SYFROYH (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:55 AM

93. Often the tweet is just a reference to a published story elsewhere

Why not just post a snippet of the published story with a link? How many times have a seen a post with a title "amazing news" or something equally useless, then find the referenced tweet is a Washington Post article.

BTW, asking someone to click on an arbitrary link is a very very bad security practice. DU should discourage references to links without context.

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Response to DBoon (Reply #93)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 03:35 PM

102. Bingo!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:47 PM

7. And, stop with the twits? Since when news are provided by twits?

Not that anyone would care, but as a matter of principle I do not click on any twit, unless it is from Dan Rather.

And, yes, headlines like: the best twit (or is it tweet?) This! Amazing! Not just for news, but for opinions.

When I first joined DU in 2004, in the middle of that year primaries, I thought that I had to read every single post. Certainly the titles were intriguing. And, of course, it was impossible.

Now. Well, as I mentioned above, who cares?

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Response to question everything (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:15 PM

17. Surely you know it's "tweet," not "twit?"

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Response to chia (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:35 PM

22. He/she is talking about the twits who post tweets

LOL...Only kidding.

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Response to Escurumbele (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:59 PM

56. I guess I am guilty of posting tweets. believe it or not a lot of breaking news is reported by twee

.... by tweet. and I will continue to post tweets if I think they are of interest.

😜🙄 and I'll post stupid emoji's too.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #56)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:07 PM

57. Yes, a lot of breaking news is first seen via tweet. I hope you do keep posting tweets of interest!

The problem of how someone formats a post or whether they post a tweet or whatever sure seems like a first world problem.



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Response to chia (Reply #57)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 03:34 PM

101. I don't have problems when the twits are part of the posts

But I refuse - and no one should care - to click on it.

Similarly I refuse to click on the story when a link is the only thing in the posts.

The least posters can do is copy a few paragraphs and let us choose reading the rest.

But, again, thatís my opinion.

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Response to chia (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:34 PM

52. Really? Did not know. Cannot differentiate


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Response to question everything (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:52 PM

27. I especially hate tweets such as ...

The tweet of the second
The tweet of the hour
The tweet of the day

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:37 AM

82. Lol at tweet of the second. Now you have given someone an idea!






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Response to question everything (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:03 PM

43. +1000

If I wanted to frequent Twitter I'd have an account, but I don't. Yet many DU'ers decried how the former jackass used Twitter to further his hate filled agenda and then they'd post his every tweet on DU.

Don't get me started on how within a specific post of someone's tweet it appears mulitiple times and you have to wade through reading it three or four times.

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Response to llmart (Reply #43)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:43 PM

68. Gee, and I'm just the opposite

I don't have a Twitter account for multiple reasons, but I deeply appreciate people who share the good stuff so I don't need to have an accont and wade through all of it

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Response to question everything (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:58 PM

73. "Since when news are provided by twits?"

um...
since when GD has to be news?

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Response to question everything (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:36 AM

81. Speak for yourself. I enjoy the tweets.

If you're not interested, you can just not click on them. You know, like you do now?

If you did read them, you might find out how interesting, insightful, and funny some of them are. But the nice thing is, nobody's going to make you read them if you don't want to, and the rest of us can just keep on enjoying them. Kind of neat how that works out, eh?

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:53 AM

84. I too enjoy tweets.

Since I follow a large number of journalists and thinkers there, I have found that the pieces they post and link there are generally good quality. I check news sources before I post.

I like the visual element of posts and the summaries are often pointed and funny. So I'd encourage you and others who don't enjoy them to skip them. There's so much good content.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:34 AM

92. I don't mind the tweets, but I don't like when it's just the link to the tweet.

Tell us what it says, and if we are interested then we can click further through to get there.

Copying the tweet into the post would be ideal.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:57 AM

94. You might also find they contain a link that exploits your browser

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:21 AM

95. Same.

Why do people post about tweets? Because thatís how Ted Lieu, Marc Elias, Eric Swalwell, Preet Bharara, Rachel, and hundreds + of thought leaders are directly communicating. Donít like it, donít click it. Earth will keep revolving.

I better go tell somebody who worries about this.

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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:14 PM

108. +1,000

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:50 PM

8. If you get your news from The Lounge, you are in deep trouble

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:51 PM

25. This seems to be a true story, the guy did kidnap a scientist, and he didn't go to jail

Only in Florida...DeSantis paradise...

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Response to Escurumbele (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:46 PM

55. Next time

he should simply ask the "Supreme Knower of All Things Scientific": AKA Donald Trump.........

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:55 PM

9. Thoughtful writers write for their readers & not their egos, so they take time to give context. nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:48 PM

40. Oh, I like that distinction.

Are you trying to inform (even if it's in the form of a personal take or opinion) -- or not?

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:23 PM

65. I wish to stimulate and increase thoughtfulness. . . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:59 PM

62. That requires being able to put one's self in the position of someone who doesn't know what the

writer know, and it is surprising how many cannot do that. I know from my many years as a writing teacher. It requires being able to see from another's perspective.
It also requires caring...

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:10 PM

63. Yesterday one poster, posted more than a half dozen OP's

Consisting of one liners. Total click bait wastes of time. I find myself using the Block Mail, Full Ignore and Trash this thread functions more and more. My content has improved immensely as a result.

There is so much redundancy in the posts here you can block something three times and still have a fourth iteration pop up. So don't worry about DU FOMO. You'll most likely see the same content a few minutes later.


Thoughtful writers write for their readers & not their egos, so they take time to give context.


Words to live by.





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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #63)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:28 PM

110. I can think of three off the top of my head who do that frequently.

Wish I could rec your post.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:57 PM

10. Good point

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 12:58 PM

11. Amen. And what's a GOAT?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:19 PM

18. urban Dictionary: Greatest Of All Time

But, I think GOAT was also used in conjunction with Trump here on DU..LOL

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:13 AM

78. Thank you, I didn't know, either.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:00 PM

12. THIS!!!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:05 PM

13. when things are exciting I don't blame people and usually either go look at the LBN

or open GD and scan the other subject lines (sometimes dupes are actually useful LOL). I can usually figure it out. or I just ask WTF. I am sure I have done it myself, especially watching a hearing or speech...

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Response to Kali (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:20 PM

19. Turn on MSNBC right now!

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:37 PM

36. LOL

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:38 PM

47. I can't! It's two and a half hours later...

and I don't have television service.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:08 PM

14. I get my news from DU also

And a lot of context and back history too! This place keeps me going!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:10 PM

15. And not all DUers are at home ( they're at work) or awake at certain hours

And not everyone has cable - or even TV. That's why I started posting videos (in the V&M Forum) to share what I thought was important or others might have missed.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:40 PM

48. Please accept my thanks.

Aside from the occasional oldie on YouTube, your posts are about the only tv I see.

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Response to Harker (Reply #48)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:01 PM

74. Awww, thanks!

I know that there are DUers who don't have cable - or even TV - and that's why I like to post the videos. Articles are fine, but it's nice to actually see whatever happened that's actually making the news. And I've always appreciated the videos, thought it was pretty cool when they got their own forum, V&M and LBN are my favorites.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:50 PM

50. Same here.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:14 PM

109. I actually started posting Colbert in 2017 since at the time I figured we needed the humor!

And then I picked up The Daily Show and Seth Meyers since those are the ones I watch. And my buddy TexasTowelie started posting Jimmy Kimmel who has become equally political and he's also very funny! And even though we got rid of the former guy, there's still enough going on that we still could use the humor.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #109)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:00 PM

114. Awesome! You are one faithful poster, Rhiannon. I appreciate all the regular video posters.

Humor is woke.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:35 PM

58. We all depend on your videos!

No need for there to be Saturday Night Live, as I get the best stuff from your posts!

Thank you for taking the time!

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Response to MerryHolidays (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:05 PM

75. I recently discovered that there are DUers who aren't aware that we have a video forum

When I see an OP discussing some news event, I try to add the actual video to it for those who hadn't seen what everyone's talking about!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:19 PM

64. Thanks! I frequently watch your video posts. ❤ nt

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #64)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 01:41 AM

85. Awww, thanks so much!

I try to keep up and I know that most people don't have the time to sit and watch TV all day - or even have cable or TV, so I try to post the important stuff - especially if it includes some humor which we've really needed in recent years.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #85)

Sat May 1, 2021, 01:54 AM

115. You're welcome! ❤



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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 09:57 AM

88. Thank you.

Your efforts are appreciated.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:14 PM

16. Doesn't bother me. If I want more context and I'm interested, I'll go looking for it.

Stating the obvious here I know, but we are all unique - and I suppose many post conversationally, not journalistically or professorially. Let them communicate how they're most comfortable, this is a big tent still.

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Response to chia (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:41 PM

54. The problem with this is that without context, I don't know whether it's interesting or not . . .

. . . and therefore worth looking further into. Too often, I've done just that--taken the time to do a search and found that it's just wasted time, something that could have been saved if the OP had just added a little context.

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Response to euphorb (Reply #54)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:44 AM

83. And sometimes there's not enough context to be able to tell what to look for in the first place!

When that happens, I just roll my eyes, shake my head, and move on. And wonder why anyone bothers posting stuff like that.

Like seriously, how is that even any fun?

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:23 PM

20. Totally agree

Some posts seem to indicate we are all watching the news, at the same time, etc.

I especially hate posts such as "Oh my god! What Rachel just said !"

And then no context.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:23 PM

21. I think too many posters are in too much of a hurry

DU isn't FB or Twitter.

On twitter or FB, all I have to do is click the "Share" button.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:38 PM

23. Same with recs.

I see many good stories and discussion not get upvoted. How can there be 50 replies and 3 recs? Unless my thinking is wrong but I thought recs made threads more visible.

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Response to wcast (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:41 PM

38. recs make posts visible on greates page and maybe trending news

in the individual forums, replies keep topics to the top of the first page

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:46 PM

24. Another thing....

I can't count how many times I have run across OPs that take something completely out of context simply for the opportunity to demonize someone just because they don't like them. They get away with it because not many take the time for due diligence. I do. If I see it, I will call it out. So far every time I have done so all I get back is crickets.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:52 PM

26. Important point and I do have a pet peeve of posts with inscrutable title lines

and little detail in the main post

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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:25 PM

66. Sometimes I think there should be a one paragraph minimum

Like we have a four paragraph maximum. I know it's copyright rules for the maximum but the minimum would help things suck less. I will not be holding my breath over this, however.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:28 AM

87. that would be good!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 01:54 PM

28. I've actually seen fewer useless posts like that since my 2 year vacation

from DU 2018-2020. My pet peeve was "Turn on (news channel) right now," the poster rarely realizing the end of the segment coincided with their hitting "send" on that kind of post.

There have been a few blind links, a subject line, a link, and no text. Nuh-uh, not going to click those, sorry.

As for US news, DU is biased left of center, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. For more centrist news, I have an electronic subscription to the Washington Post, something that is definitely worth the money. BBC actually has a good US news section online.

I gave up on broadcast news in 2004 and prefer my news online.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:55 PM

41. Thanks, Warpy. Somebody else came back from a long hiatus to tell us we were "calcified"...

I think theyíd been gone a decade or something, but it was a little weird.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:50 PM

49. A lot of the bullies who abused the alert system seem to be MIA

One hopes they found more congenial homes on Farcebook.

The lively debates on the early DU were suppressed, but they're the ones who suppressed them.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:03 PM

30. Location, location, location

When you post something from a local news source or when you post your own comments about things local, don't assume everyone knows what state you are in. Many times I have gone to the OP's profile to find out to no avail, or google maps, or even the link provided requires detective work to find out what valley the valley news is reporting about or where channel CW10 is. Many websites don't have the state on their home pages, you have to dig down on the "about" page, but that's another rant.

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Response to crud (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:07 PM

32. Amen. nt

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Response to crud (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:43 PM

39. not just DU

freaking local news websites that don't mention the STATE they are in and sometimes not even the city

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Response to crud (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 03:25 PM

100. +1000

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:05 PM

31. Good points indeed. Thanks!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:11 PM

33. call your congressman now! dial till your fingers bleed!































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Response to KG (Reply #33)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 07:27 PM

67. Hahaha...

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:16 PM

34. I do get a lot of my news from DU.

If the news is some of the subjects I am particularly interested in I will also go to the news. Most of the time DU tends to attach the news on their posts.

I rarely see unreliable sources posted and when I do it turns out to be one of the trolls.

I thank those who post the news because discussing it with all of you helps me understand the news better.

I especially thank those who braved the last 4 years being the ones who listen to the orange dripping piece of shit for us.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:22 PM

35. Wouldn't this be something best handled by moderators?

Alternatively or additionally, people could politely post a comment requesting the author not do that.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:38 PM

37. Good to know/Good to keep in mind.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 02:59 PM

42. Gets my vote.

I know this is a discussion board -- but I'll keep on insisting it is not Facebook!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:15 PM

44. And satire presented as news is deceptive

I canít count the number of times I have seen this. On days when we are bombarded with information overload, we shouldnít have to learn a post is satire through the responses.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:24 PM

45. Not to mention many of us don't have access to cable news.

I mean it is a blessing honestly but still.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 03:35 PM

46. +33.

OMFG TRMS RFN! isn't much of a post.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:12 PM

51. Agreed

And double that on the "watch the news" comment. That's just rude.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 04:37 PM

53. Agreed! And don't tell us to Google it.

Too often if I ask a poster what is meant by something obscure in the OP, I get responses such as "Google is your friend." Well, suppose 2000 users want to know what is being talked about and all have to Google it--that is perhaps 4000 collective minutes out of peoples lives (over 66 hours), when the original poster could have spent a mere minute adding the necessary context, thereby saving all those hours wasted by other people.

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Response to euphorb (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:07 PM

70. The twitter posts take forever where I am to come up.

Usually I canít wait that long to see what it is.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:39 PM

59. Amen. If it's worth posting, then it's worth some context.

Don't assume anyone knows what the hell you're talking about.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:47 PM

60. K and R

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 05:49 PM

61. Wow. I couldn't stay on line today.

Got home and Iím on the front page.

Thanks. For sharing my peeve.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:04 PM

69. Thank you

Work too many hours, and rely on DU often, so far, into 2021.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:43 PM

71. I would like to see city, county, and/or state listed in some news items headers.

Often it is not in a particular FORUM group to reference and not specifically noted in the text.

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Response to StClone (Reply #71)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:18 AM

79. Yes! And thank you!

I often see cities or counties mentioned and there's no clue in the text. We have DUers here from every state and numerous countries, so we may not be familiar with whatever place being discussed. And we do have the state forums, so local news can also be discussed there for those who are immediately affected.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:46 PM

72. We do come to rely on the up-to-the-minute news at this place, don't

I spend an inordinate amount of time here.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:39 PM

76. I'm sorry, but I think every citizen has an obligation to keep themselves informed. It isn't that

difficult. Listen to NPR, subscribe to the Washington Post (or their online version). It's not that hard. DU is not a news site. It is focused on interpretation of the news and political opinion. That's what I'm here for. Sometimes I do find new or breaking news on DU, but it is usually the interpretation of news and the discussion of that which brings me to DU. Finding one or two reliable sources and consulting them on a regular basis is essential to understanding and engaging in the post on DU.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #76)

Thu Apr 29, 2021, 11:59 PM

77. That's pretty easy to say.

Not necessarily easy to do.

I wish I could access sound news.
I get Fox and CNN International. Neither get any good til late afternoon.


And I have to pay for them.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #77)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 03:15 PM

99. Television is not a reliable source of news.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #99)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 04:00 PM

103. What are you trying to say?

I live in a foreign country. I have limited sources of US. I donít have time to spend hours a day on the internet catching all the news.

There are no English papers. No US regular station. Internet here is iffy at best. Calling up linkscan take minutes not seconds

200 people have asked that folks don't be so dismissive and put some context into their threads.

You find fault with them because you have the luxury of time and resources.

Thatís fine. But some of donít. They have spelled it out 200+ times on this thread
I guess you arenít listening.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #103)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 05:20 PM

104. I grew up in South America, graduating from high school in Bogota in 1970. My parents subscribed to

the Miami Herald, which was available in a Latin American edition, and thoroughly covered affairs south of the US border. I listened to BBC News and Voice of America on a short wave radio. Where exactly do you live with such a paucity of resources at your disposal?

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #104)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 05:42 PM

105. Well you haven't lived here in 2020 Covid

But heck, good for you and your parents.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #105)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 06:15 PM

106. Where is "here" may I ask?

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #106)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 06:30 PM

107. Thank you for your unrelated to topic concern.

You have a real nice evening.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:23 AM

80. I hate oblique threads with no context

Like you I don't have time to watch TV all day. Context is important.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:45 AM

86. rec +1000 from me too

I usually read the cover of NY Times and Washington Post, and a few articles, most days. I subscribe to both. But I still don't know everything going on in the world, and (ever since I joined DU years ago) don't like the posts that assume you already know of a news item, or know about a subject that clearly many of us do not (I'd call them "low-information" posts.) This will probably never go away but I do wish it would!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:13 AM

89. Not everyone watches the news all day

Thanks for saying that!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 10:17 AM

91. this site

is one of my go-to's. Some can't seem to find the respect to treat others with simple courtesy. I learned in sales to never take it personally unless it is personal. My day usually went better. Peace.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 11:22 AM

96. Fully agree.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:13 PM

97. DU is for subtext, not a primary source

Other sites provide primary news. DU has additional information. It is not a breaking news site like CNN and Raw Story. Reading over DU right now they don't even have the story of the 45 people killed in a stampede at an Israeli religious festival which just happened early today. DU is about the fourth place I look at for breaking news.

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Response to Jimvanhise (Reply #97)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 12:16 PM

98. Well fortunately you live somewhere with plenty of access to the news.

Lucky you. However, as you can read, itís not like that for lots of people.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #98)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:34 PM

111. Why can't you get news?

I travel a lot but always can find news.

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Response to Treefrog (Reply #111)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 08:43 PM

113. What if your internet sucked?

Edit: why does my personal situation matter to you?

There are 70+ other people expressing the same problems I have. Why are you so concerned for my individual situation?

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Fri Apr 30, 2021, 07:40 PM

112. Sadly we have our share of rude twits.

Screw 'em.

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