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freeplessinseattle

(3,508 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 04:18 AM Jul 2012

Advice for dealing with an abrasive/combative new co-worker?

Recently I started working at an additional location, after working pretty much alone for over a year, and am starting to remember why I really love being self employed.

Everyone else in my new co-op type situation is ultra easygoing and friendly, but of course there is that one person who is a malcontent. This person seems to have taken an instant dislike to me, and is hypercritical, (and I've noticed often hypocritical) maybe because everyone else, including the "boss", seems to appreciate and notice I am trying hard to please and do everything right.

For whatever the reason she has targeted me, it doesn't really matter, I'm just not wanting to feed into her game, and I have a feeling that no matter what she is determined to try to undermine me and bring down my mood to her level.

I know intellectually it's not really about me, and my initial emotional response isn't really about her, and for now I've been able to just let it roll and remain extra sweet and smiley when dealing with her, "kill them with kindness", right?

I'm afraid that one day I'll be tired, or stressed, or hot, or hungry, or fed up, and snap back at her. Serving no purpose but making myself look less cool and collected, and adult, as I'd like.

Plus I really don't want to start dreading work every day and want to be able to let the negativity roll off me better.

So long story short, I'm wondering if anyone else has successfully dealt with this type of person before, maybe with some humor, snappy comebacks, compassionate questioning. Or simply with time do some people get better, after they see you are an ok person, and I've just got the "new girl" syndrome going on?



(I'm usually easy to get along with, and even when someone started spouting Ron Paul drivel

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Advice for dealing with an abrasive/combative new co-worker? (Original Post) freeplessinseattle Jul 2012 OP
In my experince, people like this aren't going to change because you are nice to them Major Nikon Jul 2012 #1
Ignore completely as much as possible. n/t ellisonz Jul 2012 #2
Try and be with a friend lovemydog Jul 2012 #3
Google the word bully lunatica Jul 2012 #4
The two best ways to disarm someone, from my experience, Ineeda Jul 2012 #5
+1 Scuba Jul 2012 #7
Also TuxedoKat Jul 2012 #15
Great post! I'm going to use your advice on a rude woman I know in a 12 step program. nt raccoon Jul 2012 #22
Thanks TuxedoKat Jul 2012 #26
Pay attention, learn, and present an unexpected gift. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #6
Best pipi_k Jul 2012 #8
I do the same with agressive dogs. I just treat them like my favorite pet. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #10
Good advice TuxedoKat Jul 2012 #27
Hope this helps you its helped me. turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #9
I don't understand what you mean. raccoon Jul 2012 #11
Sometimes you have to strain to imagine.... turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #16
Google "workplace bullying". Good suggestions here, esp. #8. nt raccoon Jul 2012 #12
Courtesy and professionalism lastlib Jul 2012 #13
My last rude co-worker libodem Jul 2012 #14
Try all of the above NV Whino Jul 2012 #17
I worked with someone similar for quite a while AmyDeLune Jul 2012 #18
This is great advice. raccoon Jul 2012 #23
I had that experience once............ mrmpa Jul 2012 #19
Tell her that she looks exactly like the last girl you worked with who mysteriously disappeared Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #20
You're handling it just right but... Fridays Child Jul 2012 #21
Yes, document all the rude/hostile things she does or says. Keep this documentation somewhere raccoon Jul 2012 #24
" I don't know what your problem is but I bet it's hard to pronounce" BlueCollar Jul 2012 #25

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
1. In my experince, people like this aren't going to change because you are nice to them
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 05:18 AM
Jul 2012

It's as if they are anti-nice and niceness just feeds their contempt. If this employee treats everyone this way, it may be hopeless or at least more difficult to get them to stop. If there are others this person doesn't treat this way, try and figure out why. It may be because they won't stand for it. At any rate, put yourself into the category of people she doesn't mess with if you can.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
3. Try and be with a friend
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:51 AM
Jul 2012

and / or person who understands you whenever you must be with the obnoxious one, if possible. Otherwise ignore whenever possible.

Love your username.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. Google the word bully
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:56 AM
Jul 2012

Maybe that will help you decide how to deal with someone who picks on the new people at work.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
5. The two best ways to disarm someone, from my experience,
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 08:00 AM
Jul 2012

is to look them straight in the eye with either an overly sympathetic 'Oh, you poor dear -- you must have had a bad night' comment or 'OMG, you're sooo funny -- you crack me up' followed by hysterical laughter. Both are passive aggressive, true, and she'll probably know it. But neither are offensive in any way.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
15. Also
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 04:01 PM
Jul 2012

If she says something rude to you, put her on the spot by saying "Why would you say that?" or "Why would you say something like that?" Or if it is downright truly offensive, "Why on earth would you say something like that?" This gives you some time to collect yourself (from being shocked by her rudeness) to formulate a reply and maintain control. You put her on the spot by having to explain her rude remarks. Good luck. I think time is on your side. Don't let her negative feelings overpower your positive ones though or yours will become negative as well. (((HUGS)))

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
26. Thanks
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:47 PM
Jul 2012

It was told to me by a therapist. It works very well. It is polite but puts the onus on the other person or gives them the chance to explain themselves. Sometimes you may have misheard someone so it is good in the respect that because that way you are not being rude back to them in case you misunderstood their intent.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
6. Pay attention, learn, and present an unexpected gift.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:23 AM
Jul 2012

When I was in 4th grade, there were three bullies (led by one named Scott) who had been torturing me for three years. My dad suggested that I invite him to my birthday party. The first thing he asked when he got there was "Where are your dad's Playboys?" The party was totally ruined with him there. The next Monday, I was his best friend in the world.

We've got neighbors who don't relate to our "farmer" approach to our yard. I took them about a pound and a half of asparagus (we got WAY too much this year) and suddenly all is well.

If that approach doesn't work, give up. Some people can't be cured. I loaned another neighbor who doesn't like us my new lawnmower when his wouldn't start. He used it, but it didn't seem to matter. At least he refilled the gas tank.

Most of the neighbors like us, including the only black family and the only Asian family, and two wheel-chair bound individuals in the general vicinity. We reach out to everyone. Not everyone reaches back.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
8. Best
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:46 AM
Jul 2012

suggestion so far, IMO.

Wish I could have had the wisdom to do that myself when I was younger and presented with the occasional bully here and there (and yes, at work also).

Be extra nice to them. Not to change their behavior, although that sometimes happens...but if you're nice to someone who is being an ass to you, then it quickly becomes apparent to others who has the major problem.

Best case scenario, however, is that the bully, who has probably not had a lot of kindness in his or her life, responds in a positive way.


 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
10. I do the same with agressive dogs. I just treat them like my favorite pet.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:03 AM
Jul 2012

I've lost track of how many I've tamed that way even when the owner says it doesn't like strangers.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
9. Hope this helps you its helped me.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:56 AM
Jul 2012

Long ago a mom-person told me- every time a person starts in, to just imagine they are standing there bare naked and grunt to make it real enough inside, that you don't hear a word they say.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
11. I don't understand what you mean.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:21 PM
Jul 2012

"just imagine they are standing there bare naked and grunt to make it real enough inside" ?

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
16. Sometimes you have to strain to imagine....
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jul 2012

Squint like you're paying attention.

Had a college professor who got his Doctorate(In Psychiatrics no less)had to work to feed his family, was a bag boy at a grocery chain. Hated it. He'ld carry the groceries out and load them in the customer's vehicle, and with all the innocence his face could muster he would say:
"F--- you very much". Said if they did a double take, he would get the stupidest smile he could find for them.

There is a way, be creative.


lastlib

(23,212 posts)
13. Courtesy and professionalism
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jul 2012

are your best weapons. You don't have to like them, but you have to work with 'em. Always be courteous and professional when dealing with them. If they don't return it, it will reflect back on them, and you win.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
14. My last rude co-worker
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

Must have had some type of social anxiety syndrome. She was intelligent enough but was short on eye contact and conversation. It didn't help when people would say she was unpleasant with everyone not just me. Ok, it helped a little. She wouldn't even say bye, when you left her desk. I'd leave feeling like I'd been slapped in the face.
I struggled wondering if it was me or her. I think she may have been an Aspie.

I'm confessing this cuz I was going to tell you to buck up and stay classy but it is not always that easy. I yacked about it to my friends constantly cuz it bothered me so much. It really is a troubling problem. I hope I'm validating your concern. It feels rotten.

AmyDeLune

(1,846 posts)
18. I worked with someone similar for quite a while
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:47 PM
Jul 2012

He decided that my doing my job well and doing extra work when I had free time was an attempt to make him look bad.

It started out with him giving me the silent treatment for some imagined slight. The first couple of times he pulled this I genuinely thought I had inadvertently done something to offend and apologized. He would "consider it" and eventually things would go back to normal. The third time he pulled this, I wracked my brain and couldn't think of a single thing I had done that could possibly warrant such an overreaction, so I completely ignored his behavior and acted as if nothing was abnormal. I figured if I had done something he could damn well tell me what was upsetting him or just get over it. I told him point blank when he decided to speak to me again that if I did something that upset him, tell me on the spot so we could resolve it instead of him stewing silently and expecting me just *know* what I had done (because clearly I must have done whatever it was on purpose ).

That, unfortunately, didn't work and I gave up when I confronted him on yet another bout silent treatment and he snapped "Well, I'm mad at you, so you must have done something!" but he couldn't think of anything I'd actually done. There were lots of other things and he was always careful, for the most part, to avoid doing or saying anything in front of witnesses.

The best you can do is avoid being alone with this person. She will likely not attack you in front of other people. Be as nice to her as you can, don't give her anything to twist into a slight or insult. Ignore her snark as much as possible; she sounds like a miserable person who wants to drag you down and make you as miserable as she is. Lastly, be sweet as pie to everyone else you work with so that when she tries to badmouth you to them (and she will) they'll blow off whatever she says.

From my experience, her goal is to provoke you. She wants a negative response (preferably in front of others) to make herself a victim and you the bad guy. Avoid giving her the kind of attention she wants and it will backfire on her. She will appear to be petty, snarky, and unreasonable and everyone will be on your side.

I stuck it out because I was determined to stay at a job I really liked and not be driven away by this guy. He eventually quit and left for another job; he was fired from that job for sexual harassment. (I know it's wrong of me to gloat about that, but *tee hee*).

Good Luck to you!

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
23. This is great advice.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:22 AM
Jul 2012
The best you can do is avoid being alone with this person. She will likely not attack you in front of other people. Be as nice to her as you can, don't give her anything to twist into a slight or insult. Ignore her snark as much as possible; she sounds like a miserable person who wants to drag you down and make you as miserable as she is. Lastly, be sweet as pie to everyone else you work with so that when she tries to badmouth you to them (and she will) they'll blow off whatever she says.

From my experience, her goal is to provoke you. She wants a negative response (preferably in front of others) to make herself a victim and you the bad guy. Avoid giving her the kind of attention she wants and it will backfire on her. She will appear to be petty, snarky, and unreasonable and everyone will be on your side.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
19. I had that experience once............
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:33 AM
Jul 2012

I suggested that she see professional therapist. She took my advice, didn't change her much in the following six months, at the end of which I left the company.

She did get quieter so that helped. Attitude still was there.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
20. Tell her that she looks exactly like the last girl you worked with who mysteriously disappeared
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 12:42 AM
Jul 2012

one day and whose badly mutilated and decomposing body was found months later buried in the park next to your house.

The coroner determined that she had been poisoned.



Then ask if she wants to come over and have a drink at your place.

Fridays Child

(23,998 posts)
21. You're handling it just right but...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:08 AM
Jul 2012

...ultimately, she's creating a hostile work environment for you. Is what she's doing documentable or verifiable by coworkers?

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
24. Yes, document all the rude/hostile things she does or says. Keep this documentation somewhere
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 08:24 AM
Jul 2012

other than work.

Write down dates, times, who was present, what happened.

This will help show a pattern of hostile behavior.



BlueCollar

(3,859 posts)
25. " I don't know what your problem is but I bet it's hard to pronounce"
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 01:24 PM
Jul 2012

then suggest that she look into your company EAP program

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