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texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:02 PM Jul 2012

My Grandparents didn't have a table top full of prescription drugs like todays elders.

When did the seniors start taking so many drugs.

I have just returned from taking a neighbor to the drug store, and she picked up a lot of drugs.

I have another neighbor the same age who takes no prescription and seems to be in better health.

I know some prescriptions might be necessary but a so many!





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My Grandparents didn't have a table top full of prescription drugs like todays elders. (Original Post) texanwitch Jul 2012 OP
I think it depends on the general health Irishonly Jul 2012 #1
The commericals scare me. texanwitch Jul 2012 #2
If you believed all of the commercials talk about symptoms.. Irishonly Jul 2012 #5
"It was a mistake to allow pharmaceuticals to advertise." Bertha Venation Jul 2012 #21
They list side effects that would have been experienced without the drug- digonswine Jul 2012 #7
Chantix is my example sarge43 Jul 2012 #15
Good for you, Chantix is dangerous, and you don't want to replace crunch60 Jul 2012 #17
Thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out. sarge43 Jul 2012 #20
I think you made a good choice! digonswine Jul 2012 #24
I think so, too. That stuff is just flat dangerous. sarge43 Jul 2012 #25
Gram did much better when we pared down the drugs she was taking Viva_La_Revolution Jul 2012 #3
I wonder if the seniors get the drugs mixed up. texanwitch Jul 2012 #4
They do. Bertha Venation Jul 2012 #22
When our diets went to shit LynneSin Jul 2012 #6
+1 million, Lynnie! pink-o Jul 2012 #12
They may have been less comfortable, though treestar Jul 2012 #8
Because drugs can 'fix' stuff we didn't used to 'fix'. trof Jul 2012 #9
I have 5 precriptions. Archae Jul 2012 #10
My Grandparents seemed healthy to me. texanwitch Jul 2012 #11
I'm young and I already take a lot of pills. Neoma Jul 2012 #13
Folks are living longer. Swede Jul 2012 #14
When my grandfather was my age, he was old and crippled. hedgehog Jul 2012 #16
Penicillin was not available in 1934. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #23
I read something interesting the other day... zanana1 Jul 2012 #27
Lots of women died in childbirth too. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #29
It was the early 20th century before infectious diseases began to be under control. sarge43 Jul 2012 #30
If you notice the interviews with people who hit their 100th birthday yellerpup Jul 2012 #18
A lot of people "back in the day" solved this problem by simply dying younger 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #19
When you turn 65, write another post. nt zanana1 Jul 2012 #26
I think it was related to when they started living longer. harmonicon Jul 2012 #28
My grandma did gollygee Jul 2012 #31
We live in a reactive society. That goes for how we treat illness too. Avalux Jul 2012 #32
My grandma would be dead without her prescriptions. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #33
My grandparents took very few drugs. They didn't live as long as today's seniors. Codeine Jul 2012 #34

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
1. I think it depends on the general health
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:14 PM
Jul 2012

I have had a heart attack and so I take medication for that and diabetes. I don't take any sleep aids, anti depressants or mood elevators. I am diabetic and the only medications I take are for conditions I have.

I heard somewhere doctors were complaining about the commercials for drugs you can take.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
5. If you believed all of the commercials talk about symptoms..
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jul 2012

most of this country is dying or very depressed. It was a mistake to allow pharmaceuticals to advertise.

Last week I had major swelling in my ankles. Because of my heart condition I knew I had to go to the doctor. I looked for kelp and couldn't find it in a store. I ordered it online and he gave me water pills. I am taking kelp with his blessing and the medication sits in a cupboard gathering dust. This society has been brainwashed into thinking pills cure everything,

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
7. They list side effects that would have been experienced without the drug-
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jul 2012

Headache? Really? Diarrhea? No SHIT?
This is not to defend the pharm industry, by the way.
There are some scary ones, though.
Not a drug, but I have noticed that products containing,I think it was, Olestra have not been too popular. One side effect was anal seepage or anal discharge, both of which I would like to avoid.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
15. Chantix is my example
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:11 AM
Jul 2012

It's a anti-smoking drug. My doc wanted to put me on it. After I read up on the possible side effects - nausea, headaches, sleep disorders, nightmares, depression, suicidal impulses, I allowed that cold turkey was cheaper ($180.00 a pop) and safer.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
17. Good for you, Chantix is dangerous, and you don't want to replace
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:14 AM
Jul 2012

one drug (nicotine) with another, Chantix or Zyban. Cold Turkey is best and has the most successful long term Quit rate.

My quit date now is ONE MONTH, yea, into a long smoking habit, cold turkey, and doing fine. The attached link is a fantastic site was really helpful , Joe's videos are the best source of information that I have ever found. Good Luck to you-- you can do it!

http://www.whyquit.com/joel/

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
20. Thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012

What I didn't like was doc didn't say a mumbling word about the side effects. Good thing I'm not a trusting soul. I got another doctor.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
25. I think so, too. That stuff is just flat dangerous.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:35 PM
Jul 2012

And they throw people in jail for doing a little weed.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
3. Gram did much better when we pared down the drugs she was taking
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jul 2012

all with the doctor's ok of course. She was one that would go in with assorted symptoms and not leave till she had a prescription in her hand.
We weeded out the unnecessary ones and she's doing better mentally. She's still taking about 6 assorted ones each day, but that's half of what she was on before.

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
4. I wonder if the seniors get the drugs mixed up.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jul 2012

So many.

My Father had a big ziplock bag of pills from the VA, he was taking them wrong.

After a visit the the ER half the pills were taken away because he didn't need them.

Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
22. They do.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jul 2012

Mrs. V.'s dad has Alzheimer's, and Mom is quite frail. For a long time Mom had Dad taking a certain medicine at night, when he should've been taking it in the morning -- because it makes one wired. It was one reason she wasn't getting any sleep. He was up all night.

(Of course, now that his disease has progressed to its current stage, he's up most of the night anyway, wandering around the house, trying to figure out where he is.)

pink-o

(4,056 posts)
12. +1 million, Lynnie!
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:53 PM
Jul 2012

Hope U don't mind the diminutive. My sis is named Lynn (no E) and I used to call her that when we were kids.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. They may have been less comfortable, though
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:37 PM
Jul 2012

Those drugs may serve some purpose and make the oldster feel better than he or she would have.

trof

(54,256 posts)
9. Because drugs can 'fix' stuff we didn't used to 'fix'.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:49 PM
Jul 2012

I have hypertension.
A fancy name for 'high' blood pressure.
'High' according to who?
Well, my doctor (who I really like) and...pharmaceutical companies.
120 over 80 is now the accepted norm.
For everybody

In the olden days systolic (the high number) was considered 'normal if it was 100 + your age.
I'm 70, so under the 'old' guidelines my normal BP would be 170 over ...something.
BP goes up as you age.

But pharmas discovered/developed drugs that could lower that.
So why not?
You can make a hell of a lot of money selling drugs to do something that might not really need doing.

Yeah, I still take the pills.
But I question if they'll really extend my life.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
10. I have 5 precriptions.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:57 PM
Jul 2012

5 prescriptions, 3 for high blood pressure, 1 for my heart, and one for cholesterol.

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
11. My Grandparents seemed healthy to me.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:33 PM
Jul 2012

They did eat a lot of garlic and ate food from the farm.

So they did eat right and did exercise.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
16. When my grandfather was my age, he was old and crippled.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:32 AM
Jul 2012

Same for my husband's grandfather!

My mother passed away partly because of a long standing heart problem, the result of not having access to 58 cents worth of penicillin back in 1934 when she had strep. My younger son is healthy today because of all the medications he had as a kid to treat his severe asthma.

So yes, all drugs and herbs, over the counter, prescription or from your local alternative medicine shop have to be considered carefully before taking. It's up to the patient to be educated and to work with all the doctors. Still, in my family, the real problem is that certain chronic diseases are turning up more often, hitting harder and hitting at an earlier age. I attribute that to the stress of all the chemicals we are exposed to that were not in the environment before WWII.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
23. Penicillin was not available in 1934.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jul 2012

It did not come on the market until the 1940s, and at first it was restricted to military personnel.
The patent for mass production was granted in 1948.

zanana1

(6,110 posts)
27. I read something interesting the other day...
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:45 AM
Jul 2012

In the 1800's and before, a child's first birthday was a cause of great celebration. It was alot more than parents and friends singing "Happy Birthday". It was a very important rite of passage because about half the children born would die before their first birthday. Modern medicine had alot to do with 2nd, 3rd, 4th birthdays, etc. Before the advent of antibiotics, a simple cut could become septic and easily kill a baby. So could a myriad of other illnesses that are curable now, thanks to medication. I just turned 60 and if it wasn't for "all the pills" I take, I wouldn't be here.
I guess people just have to find some things out for themselves.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
29. Lots of women died in childbirth too.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:24 PM
Jul 2012

Either from septic infections (childbed fever) or because they needed a C-section and surgical intervention was not available. I would not be here were it not for a c-section. I think that would be a horrendous way to die.

And no, NOT all babies can be turned and delivered vaginally.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
30. It was the early 20th century before infectious diseases began to be under control.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:29 AM
Jul 2012

It wasn't until after WWI when heart diseases, cancer and strokes became the leading causes of death in the US. Until then infection was the killer and it hit the very young and elderly the hardest.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
18. If you notice the interviews with people who hit their 100th birthday
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 10:28 AM
Jul 2012

the thing they have most in common is that they take few or no medications. Dr. Oz did a show that explained that the more drugs a person takes, the more likely they are to have a fatal drug interaction. Eating real food and exercising is the best program for prevention.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
19. A lot of people "back in the day" solved this problem by simply dying younger
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jul 2012

that does cut down on the need for prescription drugs.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
28. I think it was related to when they started living longer.
Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jul 2012

My grandfather didn't take many drugs, but he also died before I was born, before he was 65, etc.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
31. My grandma did
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jul 2012

But it got too expensive for her, so she started having to take them every other day instead of every day. Guess what happened?

Ah, the Regan years.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
32. We live in a reactive society. That goes for how we treat illness too.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

Instead of focusing on and investing in prevention to extend our lives, we don't give a shit until we get older and start breaking down. Most of the drugs taken by older people are for problems that could have been prevented through diet and lifestyle choices(eg, hypertension, hypercholesterolemia, type II diabetes). Of course there are conditions that require medication, but for the most part, the 'designer' drugs people take for chronic conditions exacerbate overall health as they have side effects which require more drugs. Taking a powerful antidepressant for arthritis pain is like opening Pandora's box.

When its perfectly acceptable to market drugs with significant side effects on TV, and lead people to believe they're magic bullets(complete with pretty pictures and pleasant music), what else can we expect but to have people taking a shit load of drugs?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
34. My grandparents took very few drugs. They didn't live as long as today's seniors.
Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jul 2012

And I intend to live even longer than THEY will likely survive.

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