Did anybody here think of Princess Diana today?

[CTyankee]

She was betrayed by Charles and Camilla (who Diana called the "Rotweiller&quot . I know that marriage was a total disaster from the start, but I still felt sorry for her. She was betrayed by her husband from the very beginning and overwhelmed by the media.

I'm afraid my view on the now King and his consort, Camilla, is always going to carry that stain.

[XanaDUer2]

1. I did yesterday nt

[RainCaster]

2. A king named for a tampon...

still better than an Orange Traitor.

[rurallib]

3. I did in that I thought how ironic it is that her kid is very close to being king

[jimfields33]

4. Nope. This is about the queen.

[CTyankee]

5. As it should. But, inevitably, it involves the new king. And he has "baggage."

[jimfields33]

6. Nothing would thrill me more then after getting his king moment,

He turns to William and says, good luck.

[LisaL]

30. Don't hold your breath.

He is finally getting to live his dream.

[3catwoman3]

7. I think of her any time I see...

…anything about Charles, William, or Harry.

That Charles got to go on and be happy with Camilla after the shameful way they both treated Diana really irks me.

[CTyankee]

9. Yes, and we just marked the 25th year of her death, so it has been on lots of minds recently.

[jimfields33]

32. And he's married to the love of his life 17 years!

I was surprised it was that long. If not for rules, he’d be married to Camilla 40 years.

[Scrivener7]

14. I always think of the fact that she was essentially a kid in the beginning of their

relationship. A very sheltered 19 when they met and just 20 when they married. And he was very, very emotionally abusive to her.

[wnylib]

17. Same here. I remember thinking what a mistake

the wedding was while everyone else was excited over it. She was so young and so vulnerable to feeling flattered that the future King was interested in her. He was around 15 years older and had the power of the monarchy. It seemed obvious that he and his family were just looking for someone from the "right background" to produce heirs. A conflict of duty vs. genuine caring. The Spencers are a very old family, with nobility going back centuries.

So Charles married Diana out of duty and obedience to his family, but kept his affair going with his pre-marriage lover. Besides tolerating the public humility of her husband's affairs, Diana had to be trained in the duties of royal family members.

She was just not suited to such a life, but was too young to realize what it all entailed for her. It looked to me like the royal family had shopped for her as if buying a piece of meat at a supermarket.

Small surprise that it turned out badly.

[LisaL]

29. Seems pretty obvious he didn't want to marry her to begin with.

But it was his duty to get married and he wasn't able to marry someone he actually wanted to marry.
It's not a big surprise the marriage didn't work out.

[Diamond_Dog]

15. My thoughts exactly

[Ocelot II]

8. People in unhappy relationships often behave very badly.

Both Charles and Diana did; Diana began her affair with her riding instructor at about the same time Charles got back together with Camilla, and she might have also had an affair with a bodyguard. The media made their problems exponentially worse by revealing intimate details, including embarrassing tape recordings. Neither was a saint, and Charles was sometimes a cad, but Diana's tragic death ended up sort of whitewashing her own behavior. In any event, it was decades ago, and I guess I'm inclined to evaluate Charles on what he's done lately, especially his efforts wrt climate change and conservation. Of course, I don't live in the UK so what I think doesn't matter anyhow.

[CTyankee]

10. Yes, the marriage was a sham to begin with, altho Diana apparently didn't know a lot of what was

going on. She was immature and really needed time to grow to maturity. I felt very sorry for her. Being married to someone who is an adulterer would probably drive me to seeking some love and support.

[raccoon]

19. Thank you. Another thing, I know Diane was young but her own sister, Sarah, had dated

Thank you. Another thing, I know Diane was young but her own sister, Sarah, had dated Charles, So it seems to me Diana had to have known what she was getting into.

[Ocelot II]

21. Even so, she probably didn't really know what it would be like

to have to deal with all the customs and norms and expectations that went with marrying into that family, but both she and Charles were pressured into that marriage. The family wanted an heir but Charles wanted Camilla, and Diana thought she was getting the fairy tale. Sad all around.

[raccoon]

24. Yeah, it's really sad that he couldn't just marry Camilla in the first place. NT

[Siwsan]

11. Nope

Not for a nano second.

[Merlot]

12. I thought of The Sex Pistols

Does that make me a horrible person?

[CTyankee]

13. Now THAT's funny!

You gave me a good laugh...

[Submariner]

16. I feel bad for Harry

knowing his mother would be alive if it wasn’t for Camilla. He’s tortured by the loss of his mom because he was so young and misses her so.

His mother would not got into the car of another man if not for the interloper Camilla.

[Niagara]

18. I did.

I know that QEII was actually fond of Princess Diana and sympathized with Diana about her marriage ordeal, this statement came straight from royal author and biographer Matthew Dennison.


Yet, HM and Princess Diana still had a complicated relationship.

[Paladin]

20. Maureen Dowd does enough Diana pissing-and-moaning for the whole country.

In a single NYT column this weekend.

[Ocelot II]

22. Maureen is still trying to be relevant?

Honest to God, she has to be the absolutely shallowest columnist of any major newspaper.

[Paladin]

23. Trying, but certainly not succeeding. (nt)

[cksmithy]

25. Yes, I did.

She was a teenager, who had prince charles posters on her wall and who had dreamed of marrying a prince. She was in over her head and was used to bear "the heir and the spare," as she said herself. What is a real shame is that , "the firm" didn't allow Charles and Camilla to get together to begin with. (She wasn't a virgin and Charles had to do his duty in the navy before he could be allowed to marry.) Then Camilla was too old to have children and would have had to divorce her husband and the monarchy couldn't have that. It was a complete mess and Diana was only 20 years old, I think, when she married Charles, too young to understand what she was really getting into.

[LisaL]

27. Camilla is 2 years older than Charles.

Therefore one would think she could still have children if Charles was allowed to marry her.
Meghan Markle was 36 when she got married and she obviously had two children since.

[qwlauren35]

26. Yes.

I had those thoughts. I had hoped that Charles would be stepped over and the crown would go to William. Less scandal.

I looked at one of the pictures. Charles is soooooooooooo old.

I really think he should step down. Maybe in a year or two.

[LisaL]

28. He obviously has no desire to step down.

And if Charles is "sooooo old" what do you think of Biden?

[qwlauren35]

33. Biden is also old.

[ailsagirl]

31. I've never forgotten her