Amazon delivery -- in reverse!

[True Dough]

Link to tweet

[Delphinus]

1. How funny!

I wonder what was in there.

[2naSalit]

6. Something that smells like food...

Which now has taught that bear to steal human food which will get it killed in a year or two if it lasts that long.

Bears learn tricks with treats and that treat will get that bear killed.

A fed bear is a dead bear. That event just taught or reinforced the notion, to that bear, that humans have food that doesn't take a lot of effort to obtain. So that box is the pen to the paper of the death warrant for that bear and any it might teach to forage in that manner.

Fuck those people for leaving a bear lure on their porch, fucking ignorant fucks. And fuck them for not knowing any better.

[Delphinus]

7. Oh,

that never even occurred to me! I'm sorry, you are right. That is not good for its life.

[cayugafalls]

8. You're right. It was a Chewy box and there was obviously treats in there.

Those people have probably lost more than one box and it seems funny and "cute" to them.

Ignorance knows no bounds.

[intheflow]

11. This is a little harsh.

“Fuck those people for leaving a bear lure on their porch, fucking ignorant fucks.”

They only had pet food delivered to their home like millions of people. Most likely it’s because it saves time, but maybe they get food delivered because they are still terrified to catch COVID, or are home bound due to long term COVID or even just a badly broken leg when their car is a stick shift. Maybe they were at work when it was delivered so didn’t intentionally leave “bear lure”. Maybe Amazon left it on the porch when the homeowner requested it be left inside a side porch. (This happens often to me.)

[2naSalit]

15. Take it as you will...

I have spent years trying to get the message across, at my taxpayer funded paid jobs, to people who live near and/or visit where bears are that being aware of their surroundings and that wildlife and their interactions with them are a responsibility that will eventually determine their immediate personal safety.

Looks like the home belongs to someone who could have afforded to install a strong box where those packages can be placed, one that bears cannot get into. We have them around my neck of the woods. That people who build and live in bear habitat don't understand how to be responsible in that space, there is no excuse, really.

I am so fed up with this kind of thing where someone has been irresponsible in regard to wildlife in their space and the part that is the worst gets posted on social media and all anyone can say is, "oh, how cute!". It's reminds me of those assholes who took a stroll through Grand Prismatic Hot Spring in Yellowstone while recording their crime and challenging other assholes to top that.

Our culture of convenience betrays us to great misfortunes ahead. It has allowed us to become ignorant of the natural world and its vital importance. That we show no respect for it is the very mindset that will kill us all pretty soon.

I was being nice considering the fact that people willingly choose to be oblivious to the impact of their choice to not understand the reality of their surroundings. They aren't going to think it's so cute when Boo Boo Bear nabs Fifi or their four year old off the porch. It will be the fault of the bear, of course, and it will be disposed of like all other human inconveniences.

[Ferrets are Cool]

23. Thank you for posting my post.

[2naSalit]

2. NOT FUNNY! NOT CUTE!

That bear will eventually end up getting killed by continuing to steal stuff from homes because stupid fucking humans can't be responsible enough to not leave food available for them to access!

That vid, right there is the beginning of the eventual euthanasia of that bear! It is NOT cute or funny.

Fuck those stupid fucking people and their selfish fucking ignorance.

ETA:

[True Dough]

5. Maybe little bear

will be relocated before anything that severe? That happens sometimes.

[2naSalit]

9. Tell you what...

It's a black bear, it will be killed because where the fuck is it going to be relocated to?

I live in bear country where we have both black and grizzly bears and have worked for federal agencies where I spent much of my time in public education about bear safety in bear country. Even though grizzly bears are protected under the ESA listing, they are regularly killed for getting into human space. Black bears have no such protections and are more often euthanized before costly efforts to relocate it take place.

Humans better get their heads out of their asses and start realizing that every wild animal that gets in your space and takes food from you is then compromised and endangered by that act of luring to be fed by you, fed food that is likely inappropriate for its continued health. Our lack of knowledge about the natural world will be our downfall en masse.

I've had it with this, "oh, that's so cute!" bullshit when it is a blatant expression of our unwillingness to consider anyone or anything other than our own self benefit.

Our species doesn't deserve to survive the biospheric catastrophe we've created.

When the bears are gone, the rest of the ecosystems they support will go with them.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. "It's a black bear, it will be killed because where the fuck is it going to be relocated to?"

There are black bears all around the metro Philly area and even occasionally literally spotted in the city and they don't kill them. When they spot them, they get tranquilized and moved upstate to more rural areas (probably to one of the big state parks - and they are probably tagged as well). Some actually make their back though but none have been killed.

That above apartment complex is a few miles from where I live and is one where one of my sisters lived years ago....

This was one finally captured just a few months ago outside the city -

Most are young male cubs whose mothers have booted them out of the den to start finding their own territory.

[2naSalit]

17. "Some...

actually make their [way] back...."

Yes, many come right back, that happens here too, all the time. The reason there are bears in the city is because all those rural development projects in their habitat. It's called encroachment. They will continue to enter human populated areas as human populated areas come to them and take over their habitat. Habitat loss being the greatest threat to all wild species and 90% of species on the endangered species list as well asthe Red List of Canada.

Relocation is not the best idea, what about the bears already in the area where the city bears are relocated to? They all need a lot more space than they are allowed by humans, putting extra bears in a habitat where there are already bears in a confined space is asking for population collapse or outward migration that ill end with a lot of dead bears because there will be a running out of available space for relocation. Once you get west of the Mississippi, it's handled quite differently.

No matter what, bears and humans don't mix and bears are the ones who usually lose out by being killed either by euthanasia or getting shot while getting into human space or hit by a vehicle trying to get to some place where there's food/water. They remember where the food was whether it's a fruitful porch with a package containing food or a nice backyard apple tree, relocate them and they will often find their way back if they don't get killed along the way.

Simple as that.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Although it has been a long time coming

I think in general, there has been a slow-down of developments in areas where they originally congregated and perhaps oddly enough, an increase in habitable areas closer into the cities because these blue areas have been trying to restore habitat for wildlife, which benefits them and the climate (more green = reducing the urban heat islands). Of course the downside is that some do come into these more conducive suburban/urban areas that are filling with parks - BUT their natural predators are missing. So the balance is still off.

That is the issue that we have with deer around here where the parks and woodlands can only support a certain number but they breed without fear of a readily available predator like PA's bobcats, so it ends up they have to be culled.

[2naSalit]

21. Bears are top predators...

They are prey to nothing other than humans.

The incredible deer population in your area is due to loss of bobcats, wolves and other predators, as you implied. Our "management" of wildlife and nature in general is appalling and not in the best interests of anyone in the long run. It's all designed for the convenience of humans.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. We are getting an increase in coyotes around here

and although they are smaller than wolves, if an Eastern Coyote can get the cubs, it can make a meal out of them. Of course the bear has the advantage of being able to climb and that is how they can escape predators.

[2naSalit]

27. Coyotes are opportunists...

They do not hunt bears. Finding a den with cubs is a rare opportunity. Wolves are not known to eat other canids that they might kill but they will attack a coyote den and eat the pups.

Bears have no other natural predator than humans. Black bears evolved in forest* environment and use trees and climbing to evade threats and for safe sleeping places and foraging for food like pine nuts. They have altercations with other animals but they are not hunted for food by any species other than humans.


*As opposed to grizzly bears who evolved in the grasslands/steppe which is why they have claws for digging and that big hump of muscle on their shoulders. They have developed an aggressive behavior due to their lack of hiding places or trees to climb. And grizzlies, though they have different claws in front, can climb a tree just as well and fast as a black bear.

[BumRushDaShow]

30. "Coyotes are opportunists..."

Remember where you are out in the "wild wild west wilderness" vs where I am in the "newly/continually-created and evolving wilderness".

The animals here adapt. So just as the lower-on-the-food-chain group like skunks, groundhogs raccoons, opossums, rabbits, etc., find food in backyard veggie gardens, trashcans, dumpsters, etc., the higher orders can find living breathing food under decks and near abandoned sheds where those smaller animals live - or even from abandoned fox dens... and yes we have more and more foxes around here (and OMG what they sound like in the middle of the night ). So at that level, you can get territorial disputes going on.

There are more and more "backyard farms" with people raising goats or have ducks around small backyard ponds, or even keep laying hens (my sister's former neighbor raised chickens and turkeys and had a whole coop setup in her yard where they stayed year-round). I used to carpool to/from work with my sister and sometimes when dropping her off, we would spot her neighbor's flock of hens that managed to get out and had walked around to the front yard to congregate and scratch around for some bird seed from the bird feeders out there. So I have had much experience getting the "flock" BACK to where they belong with their little food can.

I know there is a vision of the city as being nothing bu a "concrete jungle" but that has changed in many locales.

[2naSalit]

31. And that means...

These predators have adapted to the fact that the food opportunity in sub and urban areas is not so hard to obtain which fits in well for them in their continual inner dialogue of cost/benefit analyses regarding food acquisition.

Coyotes and foxes eat a lot of different things. No predator wants to expend more energy than necessary to get fed.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Fast food joint around here!

You can ask the turkey vultures.

I remember when one of my sisters first moved into her current house about 20 years ago and seeing turkey vultures up close (and had seen them on a work trip at one of our offices in northern NJ where the whole office park was swamped with those hideous-looking vultures, who perched and pooped all over the place). They are huge!

Plenty of road kill around here and even leftovers from the hawks (red-tailed and Cooper's) that can be scavenged. I tell my sister that her backyard is damn zoo.

There have been nesting peregrine falconss downtown for years including atop City Hall -

I would see some on the way to work downtown in the mornings perched on top of street lights.

[The Jungle 1]

19. I live 30 miles north of Philly

We have black bears but it is rare to see them or have any interaction with them. I carry whenever I am in the woods but that is because there are republicans in the neighborhood.
The reason black bears are prevalent is because they do not like us and go the other way. So there is no need to kill them. In Pa it is illegal to intentionally put food out to attract bear to an area. If you are feeding deer and bear start coming around you can be forced to stop. The Pa game commission has a motto. Fed bears become dead bears.
We were camping in a cabin at Hickory Run park one year. I messed up and left candy in my pack. The bear came through the screen window opened my back ate all the candy and left. Most of the wrappers were still there. I have also had them on my property. Very rare though. I get dog food delivered and unless I have a problem I will continue to get it delivered.
Wave your arms and scream and yell they will go the other way. Banging pots and pans also works.
I have done the same thing with dogs for years. If I have a problem dog coming to my property I will go out with the shot gun and pop off a round. It always works they never come around again.
I have not seen a location for this bear. So before we attack how about we figure out how common the bear are in that area.
A few years ago Fox reentered our area and became common. A lot of people were very upset with these wild dogs living in their development. The coyotes are in the area also. Thing is people don't see them.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. I live right in the city of Philadelphia but near the border of Montgomery County

and had a former coworker who lives in the 'burbs send a little video a few years ago (after I retired) of a black bear rummaging around her yard by her trashcans (her house abuts some woods). I think she may live in Jersey. Jersey has seen quite the explosion of them - apparently moreso in the northern part of the state.

When the urban and suburban areas have made efforts to actually buy land to set aside for wildlife reserves to thwart development, then I think we shouldn't be surprised when wildlife appears. The coyote population around here has also increased], including at least one daytime siting just outside the city this past year.

[The Jungle 1]

33. Yea people are kinda funny.

We now have a massive explosion of geese. All the sudden people don't think geese are all the cute.
I worked at the DOW research facility in Collegeville for a few years. They had a guy that came in with his dog and chased the geese away. Then I guess he went up the street and chased the geese off the next place. Nice racket.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Those Canada geese

can be a PITA but anywhere you have water - notably rivers or ponds at parks, they will be there, often by the dozens. And some even try to stay year round and skip migration.

[MiHale]

3. That's his Chewy Box...

Been waiting ever since he got the tracking number.

[KarenS]

4. not amazon,,,, looks like chewy,,,,

That is goodies for dogs,,,,
probably smelled good,,,

[IronLionZion]

10. Chewy pet food must be smelling good

Bear was like ooh yeah, time for some delicious takeout tonight.

[Chainfire]

12. What was in the box was just a bear necessity.

[barbtries]

14. except that wasn't amazon

that's a Chewy box! probably has dog/cat food inside. the bears will love it.

[True Dough]

16. Yes, a few posters have pointed that out

I was just going by what was written in the tweet. I don't know my Amazon boxes from my Chewy boxes from my beat boxes!

[BumRushDaShow]

26. We just "call it the box"

(sorry to bother you )

[Farmer-Rick]

20. Around here

That would probably be rather large coyotes dragging off the box, or racoons. I rarely order food or animal feed through delivery.

You can't leave any food just sitting around and expect it to be there hours later. At least not around my rural area in east TN. I even keep my trash in containers inside the garage to keep animals away. That's why I really like It when the company tells me when it is delivering.

[lark]

25. Oh no, it was the Chewy box!

Poor resident fur babies had their food stolen!

[True Dough]

29. Tim to get Droopy on the case!

[Ligyron]

28. Must be a Harry and David's

Those pears do smell and taste delicious.

How come I never stumble on pears of that quality in the stores?

Okay, maybe I shop at the wrong stores, but...