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WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:43 AM Aug 2012

Watching the best western movie ever made...

The John Wayne John Ford The Searchers, is a tale of a man searching for his niece who was abducted by what was called renegade Indians.

It's a mature movie in that it shows how vengeance and retribution can eat at a man's soul no matter the reason behind all the anguish.

The last scene in the movie, when John Wayne comes back to civilization, he can't cross over to settlement, is gut wrenching.

In a way it's a story as old as we are, one that shows how a man is altered by war, how a man's soul is torn away, how old soldiers just fade away, tossed aside by civilization that doesn't want to be reminded of all that trouble, all that violence, all that loss...

TCM has the movie. Jeffrey Hunter is in it, the actor that gave us Captain Pike on the Star Trek pilot.

The movie takes in the whole southwest and, as Ford always did, that landscape becomes a character in his screen play.

I'm not a great big fan of John Wayne, but this movie rises above all his other Movies, including The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The Shootist and True Grit.

That's it...

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Watching the best western movie ever made... (Original Post) WCGreen Aug 2012 OP
I was thinking "Blazing Saddles". HopeHoops Aug 2012 #1
Excellent review, WCGreen. Ptah Aug 2012 #2
My Preference Is "Red River" Paladin Aug 2012 #3
Best Westerns ever made are Gun Fight at the O.K. Coral, Magnificent Seven, or Westward the Women. vaberella Aug 2012 #4
Best western of all time is "High Noon." n/t RebelOne Aug 2012 #22
It would be hard to beat The Ox-Bow Incident (Henry Fonda). n/t retread Aug 2012 #5
That is very good film, just watched it again last year, but I was put off a little WCGreen Aug 2012 #17
This.. AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #6
I've never seen it TuxedoKat Aug 2012 #7
That one is better than most Major Nikon Aug 2012 #8
Have you seen "The Big Country" TuxedoKat Aug 2012 #9
Oh yes Major Nikon Aug 2012 #15
that one is one of my favorites... WCGreen Aug 2012 #18
Yes TuxedoKat Aug 2012 #19
My favorite Gregory Peck novie, Equate Aug 2012 #21
Anthony Quinn, as well... WCGreen Aug 2012 #24
Didn't mean to leave him out Equate Aug 2012 #25
one of my favorite movies.... WCGreen Aug 2012 #26
it is, indeed, a great final scene fishwax Aug 2012 #10
Wayne ave it all for this one... WCGreen Aug 2012 #16
I like that one scene with the two separate trails, one of wagons, the other Indians begin_within Aug 2012 #11
"Best" and "John Wayne" Curmudgeoness Aug 2012 #12
Does it address Mr. Wayne's draft dodging? jmowreader Aug 2012 #13
I hate it when someone calls him a "Real Patriot" or a "Great American" Walk away Aug 2012 #20
I hate the fictional OK Corral movies JonLP24 Aug 2012 #14
Have you ever read "Soul Catcher" By Frank Herbert? Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #23

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
3. My Preference Is "Red River"
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:47 AM
Aug 2012

Best Western, best John Wayne movie. "The Searchers" is a good one, though.......

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
4. Best Westerns ever made are Gun Fight at the O.K. Coral, Magnificent Seven, or Westward the Women.
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:54 AM
Aug 2012

My favorite John Wayne films are...anything with Maureen O'Hara---particularly The Quiet Man, Rio Grande, and McLintock! However I am a big fan of El Dorado. I love love love and adore Robert Mitchum.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
17. That is very good film, just watched it again last year, but I was put off a little
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:47 AM
Aug 2012

by it's heavy moralization. Just a little heavy handed.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
9. Have you seen "The Big Country"
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 08:14 PM
Aug 2012

with Gregory Peck, Jean Simmons, and Burl Ives? That one has great cinematograpy too. Good story too.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
15. Oh yes
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 01:40 AM
Aug 2012

I love older movies and I love Burl Ives. I wish he had done more westerns. He was the best part of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof as far as I'm concerned.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
18. that one is one of my favorites...
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:48 AM
Aug 2012

Peck is usually very good in every movie. But in this one, he stood tall.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
19. Yes
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 10:33 AM
Aug 2012

I'm very partial to Gregory Peck, great actor, but he also because he reminds me of my dad, in looks and personality.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
21. My favorite Gregory Peck novie,
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 12:17 PM
Aug 2012

The Guns of Navarone.

Great supporting cast, especially David Niven.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
16. Wayne ave it all for this one...
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 02:44 AM
Aug 2012

I think this one is where he pulled out all the stops. He was mean, driven, and a real prick. His character was bitter about the war and all that he knew he would miss...

This is his best performance.

 

begin_within

(21,551 posts)
11. I like that one scene with the two separate trails, one of wagons, the other Indians
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 09:17 PM
Aug 2012

That's my most lasting image of that movie.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
20. I hate it when someone calls him a "Real Patriot" or a "Great American"
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 11:08 AM
Aug 2012

A great American doesn't shirk his duty by using a joke of an excuse while others go off and risk their lives. Then poor Lew Ayres, who really was a pacifist, volunteers and risks his life as a Medic in battle zones and he is vilified because he "won't fight".

Wayne spends the next few decades acting as if he actually did something heroic instead of being the biggest coward of all time. During the Viet Nam war he vilified other peoples children because they abstained on principle and egged youngsters on to die for no good reason while wearing a Green Beret costume.

From all accounts he was a maudlin drunk but he must have been a fine actor because he was a far cry from the heroes he portrayed.

My pick for one of America's all time crappy people! I can't watch even one of this hypocrite's films.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. I hate the fictional OK Corral movies
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:11 PM
Aug 2012

Plus the true story isn't that significant compared to other stories even in the same state. Someone should do a truthful movie about Canyon Diablo & the shootout they had. Much more interesting.

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