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https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-singers-all-time-1234642307/Taylor Swift? Shes popular yes, but really, of all time? Billie Eilish? Hmmm, I dont agree.
They left out my favorite John Denver and also Neil Diamond and Celine Dion
Who would you add to their list? Who do you think shouldnt be on there?
Docreed2003
(16,855 posts)But there is no list that should ever list Freddy Mercury as an inferior singer to John Lennon.
True Dough
(17,294 posts)Docreed ahead of Dr. Hook, but that's just me.
Wow thank you!!! Dr John still has an advantage on me though, which I can respect
True Dough
(17,294 posts)also has a slight advantage. But you keep on rocking, Doc! You'll overtake him!
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,780 posts)I would assume he would be in the Top 25.
ironflange
(7,781 posts)hlthe2b
(102,188 posts)Really? "Greatest vocalists?" She may have some songwriting talent, but she has no voice. Largely ditto, for Swift, albeit she is in a very different category than Eilish.
I'll stick with the "best guitarists" or other musician lists. At least one can argue they are not merely "fan-generated."
ZZenith
(4,119 posts)Took me a while to realize it but she has exquisite control of her voice.
Having said that, though - the list is utterly ridiculous, as are all such lists. Its impossible to quantify artistic ability.
hlthe2b
(102,188 posts)I could see her as a jazzy crooner type of singer. Maybe her talents will mature.
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,949 posts)... not going to scroll all those! Some All-Time great ones... Elvis Presley, Aretha Franklin, Connie Francis, Rosemary Clooney, Johnnie Ray, Hank Williams, Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby, Roy Orbison, Ray Charles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Jay Black, Ben E King, Nat King Cole, Gene Pitney, so many! ...and I'm gonna say Bob Dylan, Al Jolson, Johnny Cash, Louis Armstrong due to their being so distinct, if not classic smooth... and it's hard to forget Dionne Warwick, she has a special coming on... what a songstress. So many "group" lead and harmonizers, too...
highplainsdem
(48,956 posts)moniss
(4,197 posts)is one of the tops for me. 1965 Studio One at Abbey Road. Yes that is Bacharach conducting and playing piano.
FuzzyRabbit
(1,967 posts)If he was, I missed him.
And Bill Medley also.
And Celine Dion definitely belongs.
And Judith Durham.
Freddie
(9,258 posts)And he certainly should be! Maybe Im just old but some of them Taylor Swift, really??
IcyPeas
(21,855 posts)Freddie Mercury is number 14✔️
Billie Eilish is number 198
Taylor Swift is number 102
Some others from the list:
Karen O - number 184 ✔️
Debbie Harry is 168✔️
Morrissey is 166✔️
Sandy Denny, 164✔️
Robert Smith - 157✔️
Bryan Ferry - 150✔️✔️
Bono - 140✔️
Courtney Love - 130 ❓
Chrissie Hynde - 114✔️
Amy Winehouse - 83✔️
Emmylou Harris - 79✔️
Joni Mitchell - 50✔️✔️
Marvin Gaye - 20✔️
highplainsdem
(48,956 posts)including contributors.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-singers-all-time-1234642307/
So basically the new list is whoever the current staff wants to make a fuss about. And it's a deliberate repudiation of the 2008 list.
It does include a lot of great singers.
It also drops a lot of great singers who were on that 2008 list of the 100 greatest, including some singers who weren't near the bottom of that list of 100, completely out of the 200 greatest. Like Paul Rodgers, who'd been #55 on the 2008 list, and should have been ranked higher.
Bonnie Raitt dropped from #50 in 2008 to #187 on the new list.
TBH, for Rolling Stone's staff and whoever the hell they selected as "key" contributors to think they can really make judgments on "100 years of pop music as an ongoing global conversation" is delusional, especially with them choosing to exclude well-known musicians from their poll.
One of the best things about the 2008 list was the commentary BY OTHER MUSICIANS included in the paragraph about each singer on the list. This new list just has the opining of staffers and contributors identified only by initials. It's as if Rolling Stone decided the "ongoing conversation" that's popular music should be between musicians and rock journalists who choose to notice them, not among the musicians themselves.
BluesRunTheGame
(1,610 posts)Ocelot II
(115,656 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,126 posts)they're ranking singers from entirely different genres and styles.
...also, because spares like Lana Del Rey and The Weeknd are on it.
lpbk2713
(42,750 posts)They blew their credibility right there.
jmowreader
(50,546 posts)They put Kurt Cobain, the man whose Weird Al parody is about how you can't understand a damn thing he says, on this list...
but left off Bruce Dickinson, the closest thing rock and roll has to an opera singer?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)I'm an embarrassingly terrible singer, but I could sound just like Bob Dylan when I participated in Karaoke years ago. The crowds would loudly applaud simply because it was like Dylan was singing the songs himself, after I stopped breathing through my nose and I altered my voice to emulate him.
He's NOT a good singer!
EDIT: Grace Slick (Jefferson Airplane) made the list, I hope. I only skimmed through it.