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oregonjen

(3,335 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 04:27 PM Jan 2023

Rolling Stone 200 Greatest Singers of All Time

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-singers-all-time-1234642307/

Taylor Swift? She’s popular yes, but really, of all time? Billie Eilish? Hmmm, I don’t agree.

They left out my favorite John Denver and also Neil Diamond and Celine Dion…

Who would you add to their list? Who do you think shouldn’t be on there?
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Rolling Stone 200 Greatest Singers of All Time (Original Post) oregonjen Jan 2023 OP
I'm usually not a fan of "greatest lists", Docreed2003 Jan 2023 #1
I rank True Dough Jan 2023 #2
🤣🤣🤣 Docreed2003 Jan 2023 #3
Lou Reed True Dough Jan 2023 #5
Where did Freddie Mercury place I wonder? ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2023 #4
#14 ironflange Jan 2023 #19
If Billie Eilish is on that list, I know it is bogus. hlthe2b Jan 2023 #6
She's actually a really good singer. ZZenith Jan 2023 #8
Song better matched to her abilities, that's for sure. hlthe2b Jan 2023 #11
Bobby Hatfield, not on the list? Too bad the authors never heard Unchained Melody. dem4decades Jan 2023 #7
Well... Mike Nelson Jan 2023 #9
What a fucked up list. highplainsdem Jan 2023 #10
I don't know about the RS list but this lady moniss Jan 2023 #12
Was Tom Jones on the list? FuzzyRabbit Jan 2023 #13
No Tom Jones is not Freddie Jan 2023 #15
Article says: keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices List. IcyPeas Jan 2023 #14
Unlike their 2008 list, the new list had NO votes from musicians - ONLY RS staff, highplainsdem Jan 2023 #16
Rick Danko, Tom Waits, Rickie Lee Jones, Alison Krauss, Dianna Krall, Bill Monroe... BluesRunTheGame Jan 2023 #17
I've never heard of 3/4 of these people. Ocelot II Jan 2023 #18
A ridiculous list, because... LudwigPastorius Jan 2023 #20
Streisand at #147?? lpbk2713 Jan 2023 #21
Hang on for a second... jmowreader Jan 2023 #22
Bob Dylan at #15?! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2023 #23

Docreed2003

(16,855 posts)
1. I'm usually not a fan of "greatest lists",
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 04:34 PM
Jan 2023

But there is no list that should ever list Freddy Mercury as an inferior singer to John Lennon.

hlthe2b

(102,188 posts)
6. If Billie Eilish is on that list, I know it is bogus.
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 04:51 PM
Jan 2023

Really? "Greatest vocalists?" She may have some songwriting talent, but she has no voice. Largely ditto, for Swift, albeit she is in a very different category than Eilish.

I'll stick with the "best guitarists" or other musician lists. At least one can argue they are not merely "fan-generated."

ZZenith

(4,119 posts)
8. She's actually a really good singer.
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 05:13 PM
Jan 2023

Took me a while to realize it but she has exquisite control of her voice.






Having said that, though - the list is utterly ridiculous, as are all such lists. It’s impossible to quantify artistic ability.

hlthe2b

(102,188 posts)
11. Song better matched to her abilities, that's for sure.
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 06:01 PM
Jan 2023

I could see her as a jazzy crooner type of singer. Maybe her talents will mature.

Mike Nelson

(9,949 posts)
9. Well...
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 05:20 PM
Jan 2023

... not going to scroll all those! Some All-Time great ones... Elvis Presley, Aretha Franklin, Connie Francis, Rosemary Clooney, Johnnie Ray, Hank Williams, Frank Sinatra, Bing Crosby, Roy Orbison, Ray Charles, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Jay Black, Ben E King, Nat King Cole, Gene Pitney, so many! ...and I'm gonna say Bob Dylan, Al Jolson, Johnny Cash, Louis Armstrong due to their being so distinct, if not classic smooth... and it's hard to forget Dionne Warwick, she has a special coming on... what a songstress. So many "group" lead and harmonizers, too...

moniss

(4,197 posts)
12. I don't know about the RS list but this lady
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 06:43 PM
Jan 2023

is one of the tops for me. 1965 Studio One at Abbey Road. Yes that is Bacharach conducting and playing piano.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
13. Was Tom Jones on the list?
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 06:59 PM
Jan 2023

If he was, I missed him.

And Bill Medley also.

And Celine Dion definitely belongs.

And Judith Durham.


Freddie

(9,258 posts)
15. No Tom Jones is not
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 07:26 PM
Jan 2023

And he certainly should be! Maybe I’m just old but some of them…Taylor Swift, really??

IcyPeas

(21,855 posts)
14. Article says: keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices List.
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 07:02 PM
Jan 2023
Before you start scrolling (and commenting), keep in mind that this is the Greatest Singers list, not the Greatest Voices List.


Freddie Mercury is number 14✔️

Billie Eilish is number 198

Taylor Swift is number 102

Some others from the list:

Karen O - number 184 ✔️

Debbie Harry is 168✔️

Morrissey is 166✔️

Sandy Denny, 164✔️

Robert Smith - 157✔️

Bryan Ferry - 150✔️✔️

Bono - 140✔️

Courtney Love - 130 ❓

Chrissie Hynde - 114✔️

Amy Winehouse - 83✔️

Emmylou Harris - 79✔️

Joni Mitchell - 50✔️✔️

Marvin Gaye - 20✔️




highplainsdem

(48,956 posts)
16. Unlike their 2008 list, the new list had NO votes from musicians - ONLY RS staff,
Sun Jan 1, 2023, 09:43 PM
Jan 2023

including contributors.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-singers-all-time-1234642307/

When Rolling Stone first published its list of the 100 Greatest Singers in 2008, we used an elaborate voting process that included input from well-known musicians. The results skewed toward classic rock and singers from the Sixties and Seventies. This new list was compiled our staff and key contributors, and it encompasses 100 years of pop music as an ongoing global conversation, where iconic Indian playback singer Lata Mangeshkar lands between Amy Winehouse and Johnny Cash, and salsa queen Celia Cruz is up there in the rankings with Prince and Marvin Gaye.


So basically the new list is whoever the current staff wants to make a fuss about. And it's a deliberate repudiation of the 2008 list.

It does include a lot of great singers.

It also drops a lot of great singers who were on that 2008 list of the 100 greatest, including some singers who weren't near the bottom of that list of 100, completely out of the 200 greatest. Like Paul Rodgers, who'd been #55 on the 2008 list, and should have been ranked higher.

Bonnie Raitt dropped from #50 in 2008 to #187 on the new list.

TBH, for Rolling Stone's staff and whoever the hell they selected as "key" contributors to think they can really make judgments on "100 years of pop music as an ongoing global conversation" is delusional, especially with them choosing to exclude well-known musicians from their poll.

One of the best things about the 2008 list was the commentary BY OTHER MUSICIANS included in the paragraph about each singer on the list. This new list just has the opining of staffers and contributors identified only by initials. It's as if Rolling Stone decided the "ongoing conversation" that's popular music should be between musicians and rock journalists who choose to notice them, not among the musicians themselves.

LudwigPastorius

(9,126 posts)
20. A ridiculous list, because...
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 12:32 AM
Jan 2023

they're ranking singers from entirely different genres and styles.

...also, because spares like Lana Del Rey and The Weeknd are on it.

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
22. Hang on for a second...
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 03:44 AM
Jan 2023

They put Kurt Cobain, the man whose Weird Al parody is about how you can't understand a damn thing he says, on this list...

but left off Bruce Dickinson, the closest thing rock and roll has to an opera singer?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
23. Bob Dylan at #15?!
Mon Jan 2, 2023, 06:09 AM
Jan 2023

I'm an embarrassingly terrible singer, but I could sound just like Bob Dylan when I participated in Karaoke years ago. The crowds would loudly applaud simply because it was like Dylan was singing the songs himself, after I stopped breathing through my nose and I altered my voice to emulate him.

He's NOT a good singer!

EDIT: Grace Slick (Jefferson Airplane) made the list, I hope. I only skimmed through it.

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