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Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:14 PM Sep 2012

Happy Equinox!

Today is the Autumnal equinox. That means several things:

1. There will be 12 daylight hours, followed by 12 hours of darkness. (The word "equinox" is derived from the Latin aequi- ‘equal’ + nox, noct- ‘night.’)

2. The sun rises due east and sets due west. You can see this if you stand on an east/west street at sunrise or sunset.

3. Some people would say that today is the first day of Autumn, but here in LA it still feels like Summer.

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Happy Equinox! (Original Post) Lionel Mandrake Sep 2012 OP
And a very happy Equinox to you too, my dear Lionel Mandrake! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2012 #1
My dear CP, Lionel Mandrake Sep 2012 #3
Thank you! It is very autumnal here in PA. femmocrat Sep 2012 #2
Best time of year in some places ... Lionel Mandrake Sep 2012 #5
Well, to pick a small nit, '12 up /12 down' won't occur for a few more days petronius Sep 2012 #4
While we're nitpicking ... Lionel Mandrake Sep 2012 #7
Very true - calculated times of sunset, sunrise, and daylength account petronius Sep 2012 #8
First hard frost imminent in NH Mopar151 Sep 2012 #6
I live in NH for 10 years. I'm amazed the first hard frost came this late!!! HopeHoops Sep 2012 #10
No real change here in PA. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #9

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,588 posts)
1. And a very happy Equinox to you too, my dear Lionel Mandrake!
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:17 PM
Sep 2012

I have always found these shifts to be fascinating. We rotate around the sun, and things change.......in an orderly predictable fashion, no less.

Fascinating!

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
5. Best time of year in some places ...
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 07:25 PM
Sep 2012

where the summer is hot and humid, and the winters are freezing. Washington DC is such a place, although the week or two of spring is also very nice in DC.

Here in LA we don't really have seasons.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
4. Well, to pick a small nit, '12 up /12 down' won't occur for a few more days
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sep 2012

However, the center of the solar disk will be above/below the horizon for 12/12 on the equinox...

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
7. While we're nitpicking ...
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sep 2012

It's true that the finite size of the solar disk extends the hours of daylight. But that's not the whole story.

The bending of sunlight by the atmosphere (atmospheric refraction) also extends the hours of daylight.



BTW, the rising or setting sun often appears flattened, because atmospheric refraction is greater at the bottom than at the top of the disk.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
8. Very true - calculated times of sunset, sunrise, and daylength account
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

for refraction in a standard atmosphere. It's kind of funny to think that when we 'see' the sun set, it has 'really' been below the horizon for a while already...

Mopar151

(9,980 posts)
6. First hard frost imminent in NH
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 08:11 PM
Sep 2012

End of the growing season for most above-ground vegetables, start of harvest for root vegetables. Apple season in full swing. Short track racing, baseball/softball (evening sports) winding down (chilly in the grandstands), playoffs/"special shows" gearing up, cool fall days perfect for sports, gettin' in the harvest, and lovin life.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
10. I live in NH for 10 years. I'm amazed the first hard frost came this late!!!
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 10:24 AM
Sep 2012

There's no sub-40 weather in sight in south-central PA. I've still got peppers, tomatoes, eggplant, and a lot of other stuff setting new fruits. It's been a weird season and we didn't even HAVE a winter last season. I've still got annuals from the 2011 spring that are blooming - like right now. A lot of plants have gone through two growth seasons (as in flowers/fruits). Even the Lady Baltimore hibiscus is still producing flowers (leaves look like pot, flowers are huge pink blossoms - like 6" diameter). The Rose of Sharon is still blooming and it usually craps out by the end of July.

But, being in NH, you only HAVE two seasons - winter and the 4th of July.

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