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Related: Culture Forums, Support Forumsgods damn piece of shit scab scumfucks!!!
That was a fucking interception!!!!
The NFL oughta vacate the result!!!!
BLOWN FUCKING CALL.
FUCKING SCABS.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)I seem to have the most fun when I'm yelling at the TV every few plays.
Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)Go Seahawks.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)but if my Cowboys won that way, I'd be embarrassed. That was a horrendous call. They even had a chance to review it and they STILL blew it.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)rooting for GB, but it was a shit call.
And yes, if my Patriots won that way, I would be embarrassed as well as being very nervous about hubris or karma or whatever.
I'm an atheist, but I do believe in The Football Gods...
or karma or whatever.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)but don't mess with Football Gods! That's different!
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)You totally get what I'm talking about!!
warrior1
(12,325 posts)Threw his hat which a cowboy slipped on, keeping him from catching the ball
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/the-most-embarrassing-moments-of-nfls-third-week
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)when I saw that...I know they throw their hats to mark eligibility but there's a whole lot of field there to throw it in that is NOT right in the path of a player who is heading to that spot.
These scabs are killing the NFL. They could have easily wrecked Ogletree's knee.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)have mentioned player safety as a huge issue in all of this.
Whether it's from incidents like this, or not being able to stop fights on the field, or just from players acting like kids in school with a substitute teacher thinking they can get away with things their regular teacher would not allow...
Someone is going to be seriously injured. Maybe even paralyzed.
I wish the replacement refs would just refuse to officiate games. The players and team owners apparently can't do much, or so I've heard.
The replacement refs have to. Or, the fans...even fans whose teams have benefitted from the bad calls. Next time it could be their player or team that suffers.
No going to the stadium. No buying the merchandise.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)unless I'm mistaken, I heard that there was absolutely no reason for him to have thrown his hat in the first place.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)That is the single worst call I've seen in football since the regular refs couldn't get the coin toss correct about ten years ago. I think the Steelers were involved in that game.
Trent Dilfer and Steve Young were aghast on the post-game wrapup. That was an interception, and the play never should have happened. There was a ludicrously chickenshit pass interference call on GB that never should have been made before that phony touchdown play.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Shields was in position to pick the ball, the receiver mugged him but Shields was called for the penalty. Bad call.
My Pack did not deserve to win (8 sacks in the first half) but did deserve to have professionals ref the game.
Rambis
(7,774 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the next round of negotiations...
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)with the replacements is that it's got to be apparent now that they cannot do the job right.
Their inexperience is costing teams and could result in tragic injuries.
They need to pack it up and go home to their regular jobs. That's the only problem I have with them personally.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)to see the NFL up close...
Most people thought there would be adjustment issues, but no one thought things would get THIS ugly...The onus is NOT on the replacement refs to leave and never come back, the onus is on the league to get a deal done ASAP
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I mean, I understand the desire to be in the big leagues and I imagine it's an awfully strong pull BUT they have to see now they are incompetent and they are going to get someone hurt. They need to have the integrity to say "Sorry, we are not up to the task. Bring back the real refs." And then continue their education/training/minor league officiating until they are ready to move up...
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)refusal to leave as enabling the NFL and the regular officials to keep the stalemate going.
I mean, I can understand their awe at being part of the NFL for a while, but in the end it's not about them.
It could very well come down to a player being seriously injured in a play or incident that might not have happened had the regular crew been there.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)with any live bodies they could find; even high school?
blueknight
(2,831 posts)I had numerous opportunities to be a scab in my 30 something years working in a union. i had more integrity then to do so
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)the scabs' "performance" has illustrated better than anything why the real refs are needed back, and their leverage gets reenforced by the hour...
I'd said it before in other threads, the referees' union needs to take advantage and at least DOULBE their demands for starters, because right now they are holding all the cards...
blueknight
(2,831 posts)absolutely blame the fucking scabs as well as the nfl! the scabs CHOSE to BE SCABS! FUCK THEM
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)if these were union miners or factory workers fighting for benefits, knowing in the back of their minds that their families could starve because they are the only source of income, then yeah, I'd have more hatred for the scabs than I do the league brass...
But remember, both the scabs and striking officials all have *real* full-time jobs far away from football where they earn their livlihoods...
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)Meanwhile up here in Seattle we're still laughing.
I have a friend, a Seahawks fan, who always buys tickets on the fifty yard line, visitors side. My husband said he looked at him this morning, the guy shook his head and said 'damn'. That was it. Just 'damn'
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)Cause the refs gave you a game? It's funny?
The SB victor this year will have an asterick next to their name.
ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)That's why.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)what a shitty game and a shitty outcome
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and I care little on the circumstances
ismnotwasm
(41,968 posts)But my Dad played in the army and a little semi-pro in the Seattle ramblers? I think it was so I do know the game. My husband was yelling me to come and watch so I did, and like my friend said, ''damn'. Then I cracked up. Tell your friend congratulations.
aikoaiko
(34,163 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)aikoaiko
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Thats my theory of the good call.
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But I do admit that not calling interference on Tate's shove was egregious.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)and none of them mattered who touched the turf first.
It is obvious from the first picture who has more control of the ball. Then when they hit ground, Jennings had the ball to his chest w/ both hands while Tate just had an arm in there.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)2 hands on the ball + 2 feet on the turf in bounds = possession. Period. And the only reason the safety had the ball on his chest when he was on his back is because he wrenched it away from Tate when they landed.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)It doesn't say it is simultaneous if both players have possession and both players feet land at the same time. The rule has nothing regarding feet, just that both players have possession at the same time, once any one player gains sole possession and the other player regains possession it isn't simultaneous. By your logic, wouldn't the refs said that Tate caught the ball first rather than say it is a simultaneous catch if the thing that matters is whose feet touches the ground first?
I wish Mike Pereira to explain this.
:09 Green Bay player had both his hands on the ball first, it wasn't a tie like you see w/ other simultaneous catches.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)Cliffs notes version: control, and both feet in bounds.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)both players completed the process of the catch. Jennings didn't land out of bounds or drop it.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)And, it's actually Tate's two hands, since he brought his right hand in and got both feet on the ground before the safety (who should really still be doing punishment laps being too damned stupid to just bat it away) got his feet down. Ultimately, the way the rules read, it doesn't matter how long or how well a player controls the ball while he's in the air. A defender could strip the ball away before the receiver's feet hit the turf. (and I do believe that happens from time to time in the NFL)
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)You have to complete the process of the catch. See Calvin Johnson & Jermaine Greisham touchdowns that were taken away because the ball fell out of their hands when they landed on the ground.
The rules read, if one player gains control, then the other player gains or ties control it isn't a simultaneous catch. I've seen a lot of them in my watching the NFL and each time it is a true tie.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)seems to fly in the face of the rules in the end zone. Similar to a back fumbing after breaking the plane, if both feet are down, play is over so if a defender strips the ball, it`s too late. But hey, at least you`re able to discuss this rationally, so I appreciate that. I`ll see if I can find those plays you mentioned.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)but the receiver has to "complete the process" of a catch and a defender knocking it out before the receiver does would seem to disrupt the process.