Lip-Shaped Urinals in Stones Museum Called Sexist

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,812271,00.html

01/30/2012

No Satisfaction

Lip-Shaped Urinals in Stones Museum Called Sexist



Women's rights campaigners are demanding the removal of urinals shaped like female mouths from the men's lavatory of a Rolling Stones museum in Germany. The owner denies the bowls are offensive and vows: "They're staying."

Women in the northern German town of Lüchow have expressed their dissatisfaction with the design of two urinals in the men's toilet of a museum dedicated to the Rolling Stones. They are shaped like red lips, similar to the legendary logo of the band, but they look more feminine, and they lack tongues.

Local activist Roda Armbruster wants the urinals removed. "That's discrimination against women," she told regional broadcaster NDR. "Why does it have to be a woman's mouth? If it had been based on the emblem of the Stones with the tongue, it would have been OK. But the tongue's been left out and they really looks like women's mouths."

Marianne Jönsson-Olm, the official in charge of women's issues in the Lüchow town administration, said: "An uproar has gone through the population -- around a dozen women came to me and complained."

[Rambis]

1. I have the perfect urinal matt for that

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[MrCoffee]

45. Isn't his suffering at Stamford Bridge enough for you?

It is for me.

We'll always have this

[geardaddy]

2. This is the real problem.

"and they lack tongues"

[zbdent]

3. peeing into Dr.

Frankenfurter's lips ...

[hlthe2b]

4. I have to wonder...

(while I get the image take on Rolling Stones' famous iconic logo)....

what would the reaction have been among men, if the urinals were designed in the shape of a male's rear end? I have to think both straight and homosexual males would be upset by that. So, perhaps the women have a point?

[geardaddy]

7. Absolutely.

[seabeyond]

9. i wonder how many men walk in and say.... fuck

cause they really dont want to picture peeing in a womans mouth.

[snagglepuss]

35. Dollars to donuts men be would be getting a tad testy.

[fishwax]

5. sexism? in a rolling stones museum?

Shocking, I'm sure.

[progressoid]

6. And then there are these:

[Arkansas Granny]

12. And then there are these:

[progressoid]

17. Pretty! How about...

[Arkansas Granny]

33. What is that in the middle of the chest? It looks somewhat like a camera.

[progressoid]

34. Ha!

No, I think it's a button to flush.

[SecularMotion]

8. I think Roda is spending too much time on DU

[backscatter712]

10. Some might get a kick out of this mens' room

[seabeyond]

11. it would be interesting to see what guy chose what toilet, lol.

have to be the confident man that took the measuring tape.

[dawg]

15. I wouldn't choose the one he chose.

She's totally checking out the guy to his right.

[seabeyond]

16. or the one where the woman is saying... meh.

a man who really has to pee and no other available or well believing he is a meh, ergo, deserving.

[pokerfan]

27. looks to me

like she's checking him out...

[dawg]

28. On closer inspection, I think you're right.

Personally, I prefer the one with the camera. She looks like she's going to playfully threaten to blackmail me or something.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

21. I was hoping someone would post this!

I think it's hilarious!

[Iggo]

13. Those are women's lips?

I never really thought about it before.

[dawg]

14. I always thought they were Mick's.

He does have pouty lips, you know.

[baldguy]

26. They are.

And this is an absurd protest.

[SecularMotion]

30. Correct

London Museum Buys Jagger's Tongue And Lips Logo

The Victoria and Albert Museum has bought the original design of The Rolling Stones' tongue and lips logo, based on lead singer Sir Mick Jagger's famous pout, at an auction.

http://www.boldsky.com/insync/2008/london-museum-mick-jagger-tongue-logo-050908.html

[TreasonousBastard]

18. What Roda and those other women...

doing in the men's room?

[Kali]

19. to the alerter:

I'm not going to lock this, it seems PERFECT lounge material although I can see your point if the discussion veers off into too serious areas - in which case the only real option would be to alert on those posts to a jury.

Feel free to cross post in the forum you suggested and get the conversation going in a more serious direction. For now? this is classic lounge

[CaliforniaPeggy]

22. I'm so glad you didn't lock this, my dear Kali!

You're so right: This is Classic Lounge!

[Kali]

23. surprisingly it wasn't an alert on naughty content

the alerter actually read the article and thought it needed to go to the Feminist forum for talk on sexism, but the general topic of funny toilets is too perfect for the lounge. And that seems to be where ya'll are taking it.

[Lasher]

24. I'm with you, Kali.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

31. are you saying that people are alerting on threads because they think

the thread is posted in the wrong forum/group . . .

am I understanding this correctly?

[Kali]

32. well...

one person alerted on this and suggested it be moved to the feminist group. which I can see if one wants serious discussion (not to say you can't have serious discussion in the lounge), but that doesn't mean this needs locking - they could ask the OP to cross post or hell, just post it wherever they want themselves.

now if MFM and the Straight Story don't derail this perfectly fine lounge romp by actually discussing the topic...

[MiddleFingerMom]

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[MiddleFingerMom]

20. I, too have always assumed the Stones' "Lip Logo" was of Jagger's lips...

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in the late 20th Century) who would think it INCREDIBLY sexist, without
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[The Straight Story]

29. Those lips could belong to a man, transsexual, etc - it is sexist to say it is sexist

Men and women are (from what I gather) pretty much exactly the same (the only exception is that women can have children).

[TreasonousBastard]

36. I was hoping I wouldn't have to do this...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/life-video/video-sega-debuts-urinal-game/article2308857/

[UTUSN]

37. Much of my too ancient life, the urinals had drainage holes in a phallic pattern

The Google only came up with this one, since the modern era replaced them all, but this is as close as it gets:

http://images.google.com/imgres?q=urinal+drain&hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS396US429&biw=1071&bih=409&tbm=isch&tbnid=in1uzVxyfFXFlM:&imgrefurl=http://www.flickriver.com/places/United+States/Idaho/Malad+City/&docid=SVF4T88E3DkjIM&imgurl=&w=333&h=500&ei=UIAoT8_hFcbK2AXIrNzNAg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=196&vpy=21&dur=2429&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=106&ty=181&sig=116244427806977725845&page=1&tbnh=100&tbnw=70&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r ,s:0

Being the backward, pre-sex/ed dweeb that I was, it was a matter of, "IS it?!1 Or isn't it?!1"

And even later in my extremely late blooming, I was puzzled when military dudes taught us about "male fittings" and "female fittings." I was, like, whaaaa?!1

Then, finally in my dotage, when computers came to my workplace, it became downright risque, irksome, when a (female) trainer came around the work stations and found it necessary to say to dudes, "Use the TIP of the cursor. Move the TIP, you know, the SENSITIVE part!1" Tips all over the room, like, ewww.

[jmowreader]

38. Is there an epidemic of women using urinals in Luchow?

[trackfan]

39. I thought those were supposed to be Mick Jagger's lips.

In fact, I'm sure of it.

[edbermac]

41. "An uproar has gone through the population -- around a dozen women came to me and complained."

A dozen complaints is an uproar???

[Doc Holliday]

43. A dozen complaints

from women (who apparently have way too much time on their hands) about a men's room is less than a fart in a whirlwind.

If these women don't like it (or "find it offensive&quot , then stay the hell out of the men's room. Problem solved.

[Doc Holliday]

42. I find this less

of an issue than the Hanoi Jane urinal accessories which are still easily found here in the States.

When the day comes that men require the approval of women as to men's room decor, the terrorists will have won.

[dionysus]

50. why Doc, you've been hittin it pretty hard... don't you think it's time to turn in?

[Skittles]

44. nah

men can wear lipstick too

[UTUSN]

46. I'm kicking your ass now. Except for (Lady Antebellum: ) "I need you NOW" n/t

[Skittles]

49. WOOT!!!

[Capn Sunshine]

47. and of course

[schmice]

48. I never thought the logo was of a woman's lips.

In fact, I challenge Roda to prove that the person who originally designed the logo had a woman's lips in mind.