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femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:30 AM Jul 2013

My thoughts on the royal baby. No sniping allowed.

I didn't want to post this last night because I was tired and cranky.

I don't understand why people cannot be happy for the "royal" family. Are they jealous or just mean-spirited? I get it that people have no use for a "royal" family but that is another country and that is their history and heritage. It has nothing to do with us.

Celebrity babies always get a lot of press. Remember Blue Ivy and North West? Why do people feel the need to snipe, make nasty jokes, and just be miserable about such events? If it makes them so dang irritated, can't they just ignore it and let those who choose to feel happiness alone?

Human nature is a mystery at times, especially to the introverts among us. If you cannot reply with nice thoughts, please refrain. Thank you.


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My thoughts on the royal baby. No sniping allowed. (Original Post) femmocrat Jul 2013 OP
My dear femmocrat! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #1
Thank you Peggy! That's right! femmocrat Jul 2013 #2
I sure am! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #4
Well, ya know, if you can't... TreasonousBastard Jul 2013 #3
Well, it was the BBC! femmocrat Jul 2013 #12
Of course the BBC would revel in the kinglet... TreasonousBastard Jul 2013 #18
I don't know. I just like William and Kate. ananda Jul 2013 #5
Same here. femmocrat Jul 2013 #10
How about Arthur for a name? ananda Jul 2013 #6
That's a good one! femmocrat Jul 2013 #8
Wow... pipi_k Jul 2013 #19
I heard on TV somewhere that this is the first time that four femmocrat Jul 2013 #23
Not the first, second sarge43 Jul 2013 #46
Me too. ananda Jul 2013 #33
I see it just like anything else, especially on the internet... Phentex Jul 2013 #7
LOL Isn't that the truth! femmocrat Jul 2013 #9
EXCEPT Phentex Jul 2013 #41
I see a difference in the reactions to the royal babe verses North West. Denninmi Jul 2013 #11
Oh sure. It is a world of difference from those celebrities. femmocrat Jul 2013 #14
Agreed 100%. Myrina Jul 2013 #13
Exactly! femmocrat Jul 2013 #16
OK. I'll be the curmudgeon. HERVEPA Jul 2013 #15
Because it's my post. femmocrat Jul 2013 #17
It being your post doesn't let you decide who can post in it, or what they post. Have a nice day. HERVEPA Jul 2013 #20
And did you have any trouble posting? femmocrat Jul 2013 #21
No trouble posting, but thanks for asking? HERVEPA Jul 2013 #24
Same basic sentiment pipi_k Jul 2013 #45
So? HERVEPA Jul 2013 #52
There is so much nastiness and bad news HappyMe Jul 2013 #22
People posting snark doesn't mean they're miserable. HERVEPA Jul 2013 #25
Then why bother to post about it at all. HappyMe Jul 2013 #26
To each his or her own. I objected to the original poster trying to control her thread. HERVEPA Jul 2013 #27
And we could ask the same of you: Why not go right past? CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #28
And one could ask the same of you concerning your comment I'm responding to. HERVEPA Jul 2013 #29
That's pretty obvious. likesmountains 52 Jul 2013 #38
Next HERVEPA Jul 2013 #43
Exactly. RiffRandell Jul 2013 #53
I agree warrior1 Jul 2013 #30
They will be leaving the hospital in 5 minutes! HappyMe Jul 2013 #31
I watched the video. It was very nice! ananda Jul 2013 #34
It's just that some of us don't care and find this more of a media event Taverner Jul 2013 #32
I want the lounge back olddots Jul 2013 #35
Um...what? HappyMe Jul 2013 #36
First pics warrior1 Jul 2013 #37
That's so sweet. HappyMe Jul 2013 #39
I am delighted for them Digit Jul 2013 #51
Good! kiva Jul 2013 #40
I usually don't get worked up about this sort of thing, but I am genuinely enjoying it. Avalux Jul 2013 #42
I think it's great and here's why... LeftofObama Jul 2013 #44
Forget it... pipi_k Jul 2013 #47
I've already introduced a Royal Baby pun - enjoy! derby378 Jul 2013 #48
I don't get it either. Babies are...US! Without babies there'd be no US, and I like us! nolabear Jul 2013 #49
I may find the whole idea of royalty kind of dumb (and undemocratic) but nothing against these two. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #50
Unfortunately RobinA Jul 2013 #54
Agreed. magical thyme Jul 2013 #55

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,595 posts)
1. My dear femmocrat!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:41 AM
Jul 2013

I agree completely. It is a happy occasion, and it's part of their history and heritage, not ours.

Being happy for them does not mean we still wish to be part of their commonwealth.

It just means we're happy for the new family!

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. Thank you Peggy! That's right!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jul 2013

I'm happy you are a kindred spirit! All the negative posts were kind of getting me down.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,595 posts)
4. I sure am!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jul 2013

Yeah, they were getting me down too, to the point that I actually hid one of the more obnoxious threads.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. Well, ya know, if you can't...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jul 2013

be happy, the next best thing is to try to make those who are as miserable as you are.

There are many things that catch the public's attention, and many, if not most, are pretty trivial. Personally, I have little interest in the royal offspring, but even less interest in complaining about it or those who do enjoy the celebration. I may consider complaining a little about coronation coverage, which will happen soon enough. Mostly, I suspect I will be bemused.

(Although, I gotta admit I was a bit taken aback last night as I was trying to sleep with the local NPR station on the radio. They run a BBC feed at night-- and guess what was talked about ALL NIGHT LONG)

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
12. Well, it was the BBC!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jul 2013

Can you imagine the complaints if they hadn't given it tons of coverage? LOL

Oooooh.... the coronation! Now that will have me glued to the TV! When I was a little girl, I saw Elizabeth's coronation on our old black and white TV. I remember it well! I was enchanted by it all.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
18. Of course the BBC would revel in the kinglet...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jul 2013

and I don't blame them for it. I was just fascinated that on the one night I couldn't sleep I was treated to more royal baby talk.

I remember Elizabeth's coronation, too. Life magazine had almost an entire issue on it and who can forget the gilded carriage?

It was in '53. The Cold War, J. Edgar, Korea... Eisenhower promised good times ahead, but we weren't going to have a party like that, so why not go to theirs?

I doubt the next one will be so gaudy, but it will be some show anyway.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
5. I don't know. I just like William and Kate.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jul 2013

I'm just enjoying the whole baby thing. It's fun and cute.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
10. Same here.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:46 PM
Jul 2013

It is something pleasant after all the crappy news we have had lately. I guess I needed a diversion.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
8. That's a good one!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:43 PM
Jul 2013

I was thinking George after Elizabeth's father. I like Arthur! He will probably have a long string of names like his father and grandfather.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
19. Wow...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jul 2013

Now that would be an awesome name!

The story of King Arthur is one of my favorites.


PS...addressing the OP...I love history.

We're witnessing history in the making with the birth of the future king just like we did when William was born. That's why I think it's cool.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
23. I heard on TV somewhere that this is the first time that four
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:17 PM
Jul 2013

"monarchs" (not sure if that is the correct term) are alive. Elizabeth, Charles, William and the baby. I think that is so interesting!

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
46. Not the first, second
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:59 PM
Jul 2013

First was Victoria, son Edward VII, his son George V and his son Edward VIII

Royal trivia: When Prince Charles was born, his great grandmother, Queen Mary, gave him a christening cup that had been own by her great grandfather, George III.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
33. Me too.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jul 2013

From Willam the Conqueror to now, there's just so much history there.

And I just love William and Kate anyway. They're classy, but natural.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
7. I see it just like anything else, especially on the internet...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jul 2013

if you like something and post about it, many people will chime in to put it down. Any tv show for example. Any decade of music. Any restaurant. Any sport.

It's the same no matter what and it holds true for any topic. If you talk about cleaning your house, people will point out that at least you have a house and you should be ashamed for commenting. If you gripe about a long line at the grocery store, someone will point out all the hungry children in the world.

I try to just accept that people have opinions, good and bad, and it's just the internet.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
9. LOL Isn't that the truth!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:45 PM
Jul 2013

That made me laugh! You are so right.... when I post a reply I choose my words so carefully because there is always someone who will take offense! For some reason anonymity brings out the worst in some people.



Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
11. I see a difference in the reactions to the royal babe verses North West.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:48 PM
Jul 2013

West/Kardashian turned the pregnancy and birth into a media circus for profit. Which is pretty disgusting IMHO, but hey, that works in America.

The royal baby has been followed due to keen interest and a genuine love of the royal family by millions of Britons and other fans around the world. And, it has been handled by Buckingham Palace, and more importantly, William and Kate, with a lot of dignity.

I will also say this about William -- unless skeletons come out later, he seems to be a much better adjusted, normal, pragmatic, down to earth, and responsible man than many, indeed probably most, of his relatives. There doesn't seem to be the soap opera lifestyle of many other royals, including his father.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
14. Oh sure. It is a world of difference from those celebrities.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:57 PM
Jul 2013

I just meant that of course, there is a lot of attention. I agree... and I appreciate the way they maintained their privacy and still are. I find it offensive to hear people joking about the very "personal" elements of Kate's delivery. They are very dignified and refined, not deserving of such crudeness, IMO. Although, I think the British media is more considerate when it comes to the royals? Not sure though.

I guess it takes all kinds.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
13. Agreed 100%.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jul 2013

There's so much depressing CRAP to report on, the arrival of the new Royal babe brings a bit of a smile and reminds us that amidst it all, there is still something good in the world.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
16. Exactly!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

I can't wait to see him! They have been showing clips of William as a baby and little boy... he was so cute.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
15. OK. I'll be the curmudgeon.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:00 PM
Jul 2013

Who let's you decide there is no sniping allowed? It's allowed unless somebody alerts and my post is removed.
I have nothing against them, except if they had any decency they'd renounce the royalty crap.
And why I should give a damn about their baby vs. all the other babies born that day or week or month?

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
17. Because it's my post.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:02 PM
Jul 2013

If you want to be a grump, you can post in any of the dozens of nasty ones that I have seen here. Or start your own if you like.

Have a nice day.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
20. It being your post doesn't let you decide who can post in it, or what they post. Have a nice day.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:07 PM
Jul 2013

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
22. There is so much nastiness and bad news
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:13 PM
Jul 2013

in the world that some pleasant news is always welcome. Especially the birth of a baby. The little one doesn't know that they are royalty. It isn't as if anyone has a choice in the circumstances to which they are born. William and Kate seem like they are a likable couple that love one another. I'm happy for them. I don't understand all the mean-spirited snark. It's their choice to be miserable.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
25. People posting snark doesn't mean they're miserable.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jul 2013

Snark-posters can have full and happy lives like anyone else, but maybe dislike the attention to a non-event.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
26. Then why bother to post about it at all.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jul 2013


When I see threads about things I'm not interested in, I go right past. Posting 'harrumph! I don't care' is kind of silly.
 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
27. To each his or her own. I objected to the original poster trying to control her thread.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:29 PM
Jul 2013

One could ask why respond to my snark, if that's what you think it is. WHy not go right past?

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
29. And one could ask the same of you concerning your comment I'm responding to.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 01:45 PM
Jul 2013

Geez. I could do this all day.

RiffRandell

(5,909 posts)
53. Exactly.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:59 AM
Jul 2013

I rib my sister as she watched the wedding and was really excited for the baby. The wedding wasn't my thing, but they seem like nice people and I'm happy for them.

It seems like William is more like Diana than Charles. It's sad she isn't here to see her grandchild.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
34. I watched the video. It was very nice!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jul 2013

The new parents held the baby and put him in the car themselves.
And they are really goofy happy. It's so nice!

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
32. It's just that some of us don't care and find this more of a media event
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:29 PM
Jul 2013

Than an actual one, one worth reporting at least

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
37. First pics
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jul 2013




“We are still working on a name,” William said.



“He’s got quite a pair of lungs on him, I can tell you that!” Prince William told reporters.




“I’ll remind him of his tardiness when he’s older,” William joked. “I know you’ve all be standing here.”



“He’s a big boy. He’s quite heavy,” he added.





OH YES, the royal baby waved!



Kate told reporters that William had already changed his first diaper and he was “very good” at it.



Avalux

(35,015 posts)
42. I usually don't get worked up about this sort of thing, but I am genuinely enjoying it.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jul 2013

People don't choose who their parents are, or what family they're born into. It seems to me that William has tried to be as 'normal' as possible, I'm sure he's had to take a stand on many occasions with his family.

It's great to see these two starting their own family, in spite of their circumstances. They really truly seem to love each other. Could be fake, but I don't think so. Good for them!

I really hope they name the little prince Arthur! I'd be happy with James too.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
44. I think it's great and here's why...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jul 2013

A friend of mine is expecting her baby any day now and she is having a little girl. We are having a blast thinking of conniving ways to introduce the two so her baby can be the future queen of England.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
47. Forget it...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 06:05 PM
Jul 2013

I tried many times to catch William's attention, but never had any luck.

Broke my heart when he married Kate, but I love him anyway.



nolabear

(41,960 posts)
49. I don't get it either. Babies are...US! Without babies there'd be no US, and I like us!
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jul 2013

Seriously, it's a BABY!!

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
50. I may find the whole idea of royalty kind of dumb (and undemocratic) but nothing against these two.
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jul 2013

It has no effect on my life, so why should I complain about it?

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
54. Unfortunately
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jul 2013

this entire site is becoming a big snipe/bash/hate fest. This baby is just the latest example. There are other sites out there where real debate and conversation can be found. Even a fun thread on the baby, where the people who don't care or hate royals didn't feel the need to post their venom.

Welcome little one. Hopefully the crown will not be too heavy.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
55. Agreed.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jul 2013

Furthermore, the claim that none of them work is not true. They don't do work as we know it, but pretty much every hour of every day of their lives is filled with forced meetings and events. They are PR people, pretty much, a major part of the tourism industry.

And both Will and Harry have been and are quite active in the military.

No, they don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from. They do have to always be on display behavior.

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