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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 02:48 PM Mar 2014

Japanese Ingenuity -- Save your plastic

If this is real it is the best invention since the wheel!
Japanese Ingenuity -- Save your plastic
This is one of the most amazing emails and break-throughs in technology I have ever seen!
Why aren't we doing this now?
A case of Japanese ingenuity and perseverance. What is more important would be the marketing and very low cost to make.
The sound is all in Japanese. Just read the subtitles and watch. What a great discovery!

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Japanese Ingenuity -- Save your plastic (Original Post) Playinghardball Mar 2014 OP
That's pretty damn cool Xyzse Mar 2014 #1
I hope that its for real.... Playinghardball Mar 2014 #2
I mean, it makes sense since plastics are made from petro chemicals. Xyzse Mar 2014 #3
This is awesome! LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #4
I have my doubts... Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #5
A little more information... Playinghardball Mar 2014 #6
I agree with Wounded Bear amerikat Mar 2014 #8
I remember seeing something similar back in the '90s rurallib Mar 2014 #7
You would need to control the feedstock. amerikat Mar 2014 #9

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
3. I mean, it makes sense since plastics are made from petro chemicals.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 03:05 PM
Mar 2014

I just didn't think the process would be that simple.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
4. This is awesome!
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 03:16 PM
Mar 2014

I kind of predicted something like this in a science fiction story I was trying to write about 30 years ago but, naturally, never got around to finishing.

I wonder how cost-effective this process is in terms of the amount of electricity and heat required to concert the plastic to oil. Also, what the net savings in terms of CO2 release would be. The more cost-effective, the more likely it will be adopted into widespread use.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
5. I have my doubts...
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

There are many kinds of plastics, each containing mixes of many toxic chemicals. What happens to those?

There is absolutely no mention of what "technology" is being exploited here. You have to do more than just melt the plastic. One of the benfits of plastics is they tend to be very stable molecules, resistant to breaking down. That's why they last so long in the environment.

Until I see more detail about what is happening here, I smell scam.

 

Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
6. A little more information...
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 06:18 PM
Mar 2014
Wounded Bear: Please keep in mind that I'm very skeptical of this machine...

About E-N-ergy

E-N-ergy is pleased to exclusively represent Blest here in the United States, Canada and South America. These machines, which are already in use in Asia and Africa, convert waste plastics into useable oils. The sizes of the machines vary from small B-240 which will process 528 pounds per day continuous processing to multiple tons of plastic.

Systems can be configured to process upwards of 21 Tons per day and can be customized to meet your individual needs.

Because the Blest Plastic to Oil conversion System uses a highly efficient process, the cost of operating them is literally pennies per day. The type of oil produced in the reclamation process will vary depending on the types of plastics used in the recycling process. Refining of these oils can produce a useable diesel, gasoline, kerosene and heavy oil for operating vehicles and other machinery. Waste product is amazingly low. Prices for these machines begin at under $200,000 for the B-240 and can be scaled to almost any size and price

If you would like further information about the Blest Plastic to Oil conversion System, please do not hesitate to contact us at sales@e-n-ergy.com or by calling 360-447-8853 . You can also visit our contact page.

http://e-n-ergy.com/about-e-n-ergy/

Another video:


amerikat

(4,909 posts)
8. I agree with Wounded Bear
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:09 PM
Mar 2014

All kinds of toxins released with a process like that. Without some type of abatement
system all kinds of compounds would be released as a gas. Pretty much everything that didn't melt
into a new hydrocarbon would be released. There are methods of dealing with these gasses with high heat and liquid scrubbers but that leaves toxic water and powdered residue.

I think their process is doable but it's lacking the entire back needed to clean it up.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
7. I remember seeing something similar back in the '90s
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 09:48 PM
Mar 2014

in Discovery magazine. That one was much larger and was being used in a couple of small municipalities in a test situation.
Since the internet was in its infancy, I couldn't follow it easily, but that was about all I ever heard of it.
I always wondered why it didn't become a go-to technology for cities and counties which could have used tons of plastics to get fuel for their fleets and to burn for energy.
The only thing I could think of was that up front cost was way too high in a time of shrinking budgets.

amerikat

(4,909 posts)
9. You would need to control the feedstock.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 10:12 PM
Mar 2014

I don't think any random combinations of plastics would work because they all release different
compounds which need different types of pollution control.

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