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Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:54 PM May 2014

I encountered a mother bear and her two cubs on my bike ride today.

I apologise in advance for the extreme crappiness of the included pictures. All I had with me was my ancient phone with its 0.5 kilopixel camera and foggy lens.

I was riding my bike in the Cascade Mountains and passed within touching distance of a brown bear sitting by the side of the trail, munching greens. I had already just about passed her when I realised what I was seeing. I got off the bike at a safe distance and watched her for a while. She knew I was there but didn't seem concerned about it. A minute later, two cubs joined her and I retreated a bit further, ready to flee should it prove necessary.

They all eventually crossed onto the trail, sat down in the middle and sunned themselves for a while. The cubs looked at me with interest, but momma bear snarled at them to mind their own business and to ignore the weirdo.

Quite a while later, she hurled an opprobrious epithet in my direction and the family walked off into the woods, the cubs looking -- did I imagine it? -- whistfully at me, as though they would've wanted to get to know me better.

The whole encounter lasted nearly twenty minutes and during that whole time I had them all to myself. That makes today about a million percent better than any day I ever spent at work.

God, I love living in the Pacific Northwest!



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I encountered a mother bear and her two cubs on my bike ride today. (Original Post) Ron Obvious May 2014 OP
You're lucky to be alive. Jenoch May 2014 #1
The advice I always heard Ron Obvious May 2014 #3
Age old advice: hike with a slower person. NYC_SKP May 2014 #4
lol TeamPooka May 2014 #22
I'm glad you had that experience. Jenoch May 2014 #6
Advice from British Columbia central scrutinizer May 2014 #18
Grizzly bear shit has bells in it & smells like pepper! countryjake May 2014 #24
Wow, look at that! Raffi Ella May 2014 #2
No, I wasn't scared... Ron Obvious May 2014 #5
I've seen black bears quite a few times in Appalachia Warpy May 2014 #7
"Just so exhilarating..." Raffi Ella May 2014 #23
My brother was riding through Denali drmeow May 2014 #8
Even though the camera 2naSalit May 2014 #9
The picture makes everything look a little darker than it was Ron Obvious May 2014 #14
I see them rather often 2naSalit May 2014 #20
Beautiful! ...but scary. tofuandbeer May 2014 #10
"Wistfully"? More likely, "hungrily". Scuba May 2014 #11
That's very possible! Ron Obvious May 2014 #13
Pretty neat shenmue May 2014 #12
Kick for "opprobrious" panader0 May 2014 #15
I was duly impressed 2naSalit May 2014 #21
I like the idea of bears but... Phentex May 2014 #16
In the immortal words of Snagglepuss whistler162 May 2014 #17
That's awesome! bigwillq May 2014 #19
Wow, that is just spectacular! Thank you for sharing the pics. R B Garr May 2014 #25
I never thought I'd need a whistle here... Ron Obvious May 2014 #26
What a beautiful ride. I would love to do that. R B Garr May 2014 #28
We get black bears here a LOT Lucinda May 2014 #27
 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
1. You're lucky to be alive.
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:02 PM
May 2014

A less trusting mama bear could have traversed that distance in about 8 seconds and mauled you.

I would not have stopped.

If attacked by a brown bear the best advice is to cover your head with your arms and play dead.

If attacked by a black bear, fight the bear with everyting you have.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
3. The advice I always heard
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:16 PM
May 2014

If you're not sure it's a Grizzly or a brown bear, kick its arse and climb a tree. If it climbs after you and eats you, it's a brown bear. If it shakes you out of the tree and then eats you, it's a Grizzly.

I think I left enough distance that I would've been on my bike at the first sign of trouble, but seeing the two cubs made me seriously reconsider staying, I'll grant you.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
6. I'm glad you had that experience.
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:26 PM
May 2014

I probably would have done the same.

My point was that brown bears, including grizzley, will stop their attack when they no longer percieve you as a threat. A black bear will continue tbe attack until you are dead and they can eat you.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
2. Wow, look at that!
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:15 PM
May 2014

The bears, the greenery, the road, that mountain in the background- incredible. I've never seen a bear in real life before.

Do you carry protection with you on those rides? When we go up to the N.GA mountains we always do. Better safe than dead you know.

Were you scared?

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
5. No, I wasn't scared...
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:24 PM
May 2014

Last edited Fri May 2, 2014, 01:17 AM - Edit history (1)

This is only my second bear encounter, and the first time ever on this trail.

The first time I was way in the back country on the Olympic Peninsula eating a bologna sandwich while sitting on a tree trunk and a bear started coming towards me. That time I did get scared and made it out of there quickly, ready to jettison the sandwiches, but he didn't pursue.

When I'd go hiking the back country, I'd always have bear spray with me, but this is a relatively well-travelled trail only a short distance from I-90 and I just wasn't expecting it. I've seen plenty of deer and bald eagles there before, but never a bear.

The whole thing was just so exhilarating I didn't think of being scared. I think I exercised healthy caution, but I'm prepared to admit I might have been reckless.

Warpy

(111,107 posts)
7. I've seen black bears quite a few times in Appalachia
Thu May 1, 2014, 11:36 PM
May 2014

but none out west, even though bears do come into the city in spring and fall. We're too far south for grizzlies.

Black bears back east are only dangerous because asshole tourists feed them through cracks in their car windows. They've lost their fear of people. Fortunately for the asshole tourists, they're also not terribly ambitious or they'd be through those windows and dining on the kiddies.

You got a couple of nice pictures. My guess is that since you'd already passed and stayed far away, Mama Bear didn't perceive you as much of a threat, just an annoyance.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
23. "Just so exhilarating..."
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:07 PM
May 2014

yeah I'll bet! I mean your life being at stake and all -lol. Honestly, being that close, I think I would have fainted. I'd reconsider taking the bear spray along with you on that trail from now on.

In any case, cool story, amazing scenery, it's great that you got pictures of it. You are indeed lucky to live in such a beautiful place... Thanks for sharing it with us.

drmeow

(5,011 posts)
8. My brother was riding through Denali
Fri May 2, 2014, 12:48 AM
May 2014

came around a curve (or over a rise or something like that) and wiped right by a Grizzly bear - scared the shit out of both of them! Freaked out my mom even worse when he told her

Closest I've been to a Grizzly was when one walked right by the bus we were on in Denali (on our side) ... stopped and looked a all of us suspiciously when it heard the click of a camera.

Sounds like a great experience. I don't know if I would have been brave enough to stick around beyond snapping a few pics.

2naSalit

(86,293 posts)
9. Even though the camera
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:14 AM
May 2014

wasn't the best, it's cool to see. Obviously you have a clue about bears and seem to have judged the situation constantly. It looks like that mama black bear has two cinnamon cubs! I see lots of cinnamons but never seen two cubs from same litter.

They look like they might year-olds so she was probably not as concerned about you as she may have been with cubs of the year... infants.

I see griz and black bear often and have to be prepared when I step outside much of the time in spring and fall. Seems they like the smell of whatever I happen to be cooking when they are close enough to catch a whiff. Sometimes they leave nose prints on bottom of the door.

It's nice to see wildlife, glad this was a pleasant chance encounter for you!! Thanks for sharing.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
14. The picture makes everything look a little darker than it was
Fri May 2, 2014, 08:55 AM
May 2014

The mother looks black in the picture, but she was really a rich brown, while the cubs were a very light brown.

Lucky you, seeing bears all the time! I'm guessing you must be living in Alaska or the Yukon.

I do indeed love seeing wildlife. The one creature I see all the time now is the Bald Eagle. The first 15 years I lived here, I saw only one of them, but in the last 10, I've seen dozens. They've really made a wonderful comeback.

2naSalit

(86,293 posts)
20. I see them rather often
Fri May 2, 2014, 12:22 PM
May 2014

because I live in the northern Rockies not far from YNP. Thankfully, all the predators are here and since they don't know about arbitrary human boundaries they are also outside the park. And I'm outside of any town, up along the divide in a forested area, which makes for a lifestyle more akin to "wildlife observation post". I love it. Has its dangers, woes and hard work but it's well worth the peaceful sense of living life that I desperately require at any and all costs.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
10. Beautiful! ...but scary.
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:27 AM
May 2014

When with her cubs, isn't that when the mom is most aggressive?

NEVER MIND:
....sorry, I read the title, looked at your pictures and replied, before reading your explanation..

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
16. I like the idea of bears but...
Fri May 2, 2014, 10:12 AM
May 2014

I would be terrified. I mean, I think they are cute and I want to see the bear movie but SEEING them in the wild would scare me to death!

R B Garr

(16,949 posts)
25. Wow, that is just spectacular! Thank you for sharing the pics.
Fri May 2, 2014, 10:43 PM
May 2014

That was very brave of you! What an absolutely beautiful place to bicycle ride. Maybe you've already discussed whether you have some sort of "anti" wildlife whistle or something like that to scare them off in case you do get too close by accident and it becomes dangerous.

I've been riding down at the Newport Back Bay Loop by Newport Beach, and while it's nothing like the actual mountains and beautiful forests in the Pacific Northwest, there are bobcats. They are small enough, but when we've gone later in the evening and sometimes are riding when it's dark, I do get a little scared that they might be close to the road eating something, and if we happen upon them too close, they might act more aggressively if they have some prey to protect. But then again, I'm kind of a big baby, so that probably would never happen, lol. But I worry anyway.

I would probably faint if I saw bears! You handled it very well.



 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
26. I never thought I'd need a whistle here...
Sat May 3, 2014, 12:12 AM
May 2014

Or bear spray or anything. I've ridden this trail dozens of times and never even thought of bear encounters before.

It IS a gorgeous trail though. It links up with a few other trails so that, in theory, I could ride almost from my house to at least the Columbia River without having to deal with cars. The trail extends beyond that, but is practically unrideable in Eastern Washington because of all the horse traffic, sadly enough.

Here are some other pictures of that trail I've taken previously. It's a rails-to-trails conversion, so while it climbs significantly, it's railroad grade.









The most famous part of the trail is the 2.2 mile long Snoqualmie Tunnel. It was built in 1914, and it's absolutely pitch black in there. Only an absolute idiot would attempt it without lights. I've ridden it twice without lights myself



After you emerge from that tunnel in Eastern Washington, the landscape changes radically:

R B Garr

(16,949 posts)
28. What a beautiful ride. I would love to do that.
Sun May 4, 2014, 07:27 PM
May 2014

In fact, I could probably live in that area. The Pacific Northwest is like God's Country, imo. It's just breathtaking.

I know what you mean about trails being unrideable because of the other traffic. It's like that where we go, too, especially on the weekends -- a lot of time is spent slowing to dodge walkers, dogs, etc.

Thanks for those beautiful pics. Now there's another place on my list to visit!

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
27. We get black bears here a LOT
Sat May 3, 2014, 12:38 AM
May 2014


We live just a mile or two from the GSMNP and get lots of visits from local black bears. Even after being here several years, it's still exciting to see them.
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