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Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:05 PM

First trailer for Brad Pitt's WWII tank film, "Fury":



SO looking forward to this movie. Hollywood rarely gets tank operations right, but as an ex-tanker, I have hope for this film.

Cross-posted in the Movies Forum.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 02:42 PM

1. Well I don't know if they got it "right", but I loved Sgt. Oddball and his crew in Kelly's Heroes!





Looking forward to Pitt's new movie too. I have a feeling it'll be done well.

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Response to bluesbassman (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 02:55 PM

2. Yeah. They totally didn't get it right in "Kelly's Heroes".

Rather than explain it all over again, I'll just post the relevant thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1270544

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the movie. And I've never not loved Donald Sutherland.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:10 PM

3. Yeah, I don't think they were trying to go for wartime realism in that film.

To be fair though, Oddball's crew weren't hippies they were Bohemians.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 04:21 PM

4. Well, you should be pleased they made an effort to get authentic hardware

evidently including an actual Tiger!

I suspect the heroes' Sherman is going to be a bit more effective engaging German tanks than the historical norm... I can't say I know a lot about tank operations but I did read Belton Cooper's "Deathtraps," and if that memoir is remotely accurate the first rule in taking on a Tiger in a Sherman is - just don't, if you have any choice in the matter!

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Response to caraher (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 04:28 PM

5. Here is my thread about that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1270595

I'm tickled to death that they're using a real Tiger for the film. That's going to be incredible! They do show a brief scene in the trailer about the Sherman going up against the Tiger. It looks as if their first shot doesn't harm the Tiger at all, which would have been realistic. It doesn't show the outcome of the slugging match, of course. That would ruin the suspense. But it seems to imply that the Sherman is trying to get around to the rear of the Tiger, where it was the most vulnerable to the Sherman's gun. But it's tough when there's only one other tank in the fight. The Tiger can traverse the turret to keep its rear deck protected, and also to keep fighting the Sherman. Ideally, the Americans would have three or four Shermans going up against the Tiger. To keep the Tiger focused on one tank while the others scoot around to fire at the rear. American WWII tankers said that such a maneuver could be successful in taking out the Tiger, but could still result in the loss of one or two Shermans.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 04:37 PM

6. It's not clear how much help will be available in climactic battle scenes

The publicity makes a lot of the daring dash deep behind enemy lines aspect of the plot, describing them as "outnumbered and outgunned."

Certainly showing teamwork would result in a more realistic film. Maybe they'll do that...

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Response to caraher (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 04:39 PM

7. There were few situations in the battles of Western Europe after the Normandy invasion

when the Allied forces were outnumbered and outgunned. Even during the Battle of The Bulge, the Americans, British, Canadians, and other Allies outnumbered the Germans, who achieved what they did due to surprise and a willingness to commit atrocities.

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Response to caraher (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:02 PM

10. I read Deathtraps too.

Americans still don't realize how handicapped our guys were in WWII.

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 05:04 PM

8. When I first read the thread title, I thought that it was WillPitt's Tank Movie

I was going to say, "How in the hell did WillPitt make a tank movie?"

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 05:57 PM

9. Answer: "Any way he wants to!"

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Response to Aristus (Original post)

Thu Jun 26, 2014, 05:19 PM

11. For your sake and the sake of your brother tankers, I hope they get it right

I'm the same way about the Infantry. I cringe at dramatizations that get it all wrong. Even the little details can drive you nuts--like one movie that showed a soldier with his ribbon rack on his shirt upside down!

I won't be reviewing this tanker movie, though. In OCS I was sick and missed most of our Armor training block and did terrible on that portion of the exam.

I do, however, feel at least partially redeemed by the fact that I later attended an Army Organizational Maintenance Officer course at Ft. Knox in which my team had to diagnose a failure on a tank, pull the engine, and repair and re-install it.

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