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Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:11 PM

 

so the wifes new pup has epilepsy...the medicine does....wild things to her

first off I never want to make fun of a sick dog....but DAYUM.
We have had her about two months and she was having on bad days four and five seizures.The vet put her on anti seizure and all was good until last night.
Now keep in mind she is the smallest dog I have ever seen....she is half teacup pom and half teacup maltese...when we got her at eight weeks we were still weighing her in ounces.

She has always had seizures and we have figured out she has epilepsy but it was controlled until last night when she had two seizures.We called the vet this morning and he said to double up her anti seizure meds.
Keep in mind she was so small they had to figure out her meds at first and took a small dog anti seizure med and cut it into 8 pieces.

When I got home after work she was due so I gave her a double dose....OMG

She's like a cokehead on a binge.....walking laps and muttering to herself...she took Charlies favorite squeeky toy and slung it at him as she walked past....she is wound up to about twelve right now.

Is this normal for anti siezure meds on a dog?

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Reply so the wifes new pup has epilepsy...the medicine does....wild things to her (Original post)
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 OP
orleans Oct 2014 #1
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #2
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #3
Brigid Oct 2014 #4
whistler162 Oct 2014 #5
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #6
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #7
FSogol Oct 2014 #9
Kali Oct 2014 #11
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reflection Oct 2014 #19
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #8
whistler162 Oct 2014 #10
OhioChick Oct 2014 #12
irisblue Oct 2014 #14
irisblue Oct 2014 #13
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #15
backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #16
irisblue Oct 2014 #18
irisblue Oct 2014 #17
WinkyDink Oct 2014 #20
bobclark86 Oct 2014 #21
Kali Nov 2014 #22

Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:27 PM

1. i don't know. but i'm kicking this so hopefully you'll get an answer.

i wonder -- maybe call the vet & talk to somebody.

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Response to orleans (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:32 PM

2. she seems fine...just WOUND UP

 

she cant jump on the couch...she is too small....but she can tonight.
She's a trip right now.
She seems perfectly fine...no seizures or anything....just wound really tight

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:47 PM

3. her med is

 

Levetracetam

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 06:56 PM

4. YouTube candidate!

Your description made me

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 07:23 PM

5. SO stop giving your wife the medicine

 

that is for the dog.

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 07:36 PM

6. WTF?

 

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 07:40 PM

7. come to my house and call my wife a dog

 

you wouldn't walk away

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 07:53 PM

9. Wouldn't walk away without a few hours of grammar lessons.

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:05 PM

11. it was a joke

this is the lounge, relax

they weren't calling your wife a dog, they were riffing off your subject line

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 02:05 PM

19. .



Clearly he/she was having fun with your subject line.

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Response to whistler162 (Reply #5)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 07:45 PM

8. if you would like to call my wife a dog to my face I'll pm you my address

 

or you can pm me yours...we can have a conversation about it

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 08:14 PM

10. Zoom over the head on that one.

 

No where did I refer to your wife as a dog. I did however suggest, TONGUE IN CHEEK, that you should be giving the medicine to the dog instead of your wife especially since it is causing her to do wild things.

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:28 PM

12. I've never heard of Levetracetam before

My vet always prescribed the old tried and true Phenobarbital for epilepsy in my dog.

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Response to OhioChick (Reply #12)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:44 PM

14. Levetracetam is a Keppra analog

Phenobarb was Alexs' first med as well. Phenobarb is dirt cheap too.

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:33 PM

13. I have a great deal of experience with Canine Epilepsy. My first dog was epileptic

and he lived loved, long and well. Bob, do you live near a major vet teaching hospital? As much as I loved/love my local vets, they were glad to refer me and Alex to an expert. Did your vet tell you about the valium protocol to try to prevent a second sz or a cluster? Several major websites with loads and loads of information are 1-http://www.canine-epilepsy.com 2 http://www.canine-epilepsy.net there are several Yahoo groups that you can learn from. PM me if you want to talk.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 10:49 PM

15. I hope you wont end up hating me

 

I have so many questions but she is quiet for now and sleepy so we are going to lay down but I have so many questions for you I hope you wont end up hating me.

I've never had a dog with epilepsy and I am totally lost.....I am hoping my vet knows what she is talking about and it is hope and a wing and a prayer from there right now

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 10:57 PM

16. valium seizure proticol

 

will that stop wave seizures?

She was having several a day seizures until they got her on the abouve thread mentioned Levetracetam.

She was doing great for about a month and now the seizures are coming back.

she can go weeks without an episode but if she has one we know to sit up because she will have 4 or 5

I feel so bad for her...even after the seizure she wants to run to burn the nerves I guess and progressively she is off balance longer and longer after a seizure

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 02:03 PM

18. canine epilepsy , Alex and the valium protocol

Alex the Wonder dog, most handsome Prince of Columbus had his first seizure in 1996. There wasn't a lot known then, I stumbled on an article about canine epilepsy and first used the internet to find those groups I mentioned above, I found help, comfort and advice from them. Those articles are very good and excellent resources. The valium protocol was designed in the late 80s/early 90s in part by vets at Ohio State University and University of Kentucky. A variation is used in humans now to lessen the chance of further seizures (I don't know anything about other mammals with epilepsy so I can't speak to those issues). A needless syringe of the right amount of liquid valium is CAREFULLY inserted into the dogs rectum and slowly injected. The rectal walls are well vascularized and the valium will get into the dogs circulatory system and therefore into the circulatory system of the brain quicker then giving a pill.

The walking around in circles, almost blindly is the post ictal phase, it is almost as though the brain has to work off all that excess electrical energy. Some times the seizures will use so much of the brains' glucose stores that a second seizure is possible, so on advice from the groups when I could see Alex was ' back' he and any other dog would get some all natural ice creams or a scrambled egg.


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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #15)

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 11:26 PM

17. never!

a whole bunch of people helped me, It is a scary thing to see your fur baby like that. PM me any time

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Fri Oct 31, 2014, 06:25 AM

20. Your title's syntax is correct (unless people think this dog should be an "it" and not a "her"?).

 

Punctuation, OTOH,.....!

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Fri Oct 31, 2014, 01:20 PM

21. I had a very old dog with seizures...

Barbituates are the way to go. Benzodiazapam (Valium) works well.

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Response to backwoodsbob (Original post)

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 06:03 PM

22. and now you want to breed her multiple times?

that is some sick fucking shit.

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