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True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:15 PM Nov 2014

I can't help it, I'm a beer snob. Anyone else have this problem?

It started innocently enough - trying a nice craft beer here and there - but I could still easily hang with tap stuff, Guinness etc.

But then I ran into a brew so damn good it ruined me. I just can't drink normal beer now. It tastes like piss now. So now I'm doomed to only being able to stomach beer that costs twice as much as normal beer.

Anyone else have this particular First World Problem?

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I can't help it, I'm a beer snob. Anyone else have this problem? (Original Post) True Blue Door Nov 2014 OP
Yes. I can't drink yellow beer. cyberswede Nov 2014 #1
Stone IPA. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #3
I like to think of Arrogant Bastard as a "gateway beer". Initech Nov 2014 #22
Gateway to bankruptcy, anyway. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #30
True that! Initech Nov 2014 #31
Not me. I don't even especially like beer, except maybe if it's a very hot day The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #2
My Y chromosome is from the Black Forest, so there's probably some deep physical reason True Blue Door Nov 2014 #5
Yes it happens, you taste real beer and you can no longer tolerate the Budweisers of the world liberal N proud Nov 2014 #4
Do green bottles get skunked easier? True Blue Door Nov 2014 #6
That is my opinion liberal N proud Nov 2014 #7
yes - it's chemistry. not only green ones - called being Lightstruck NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #9
guilty. If can read through it, it is too light! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #8
Beer is like cameras. hunter Nov 2014 #10
I'm rather particular about my cheap beers/malt liquors. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #12
Scotch Ale bikebloke Nov 2014 #11
Did you mean to post this here?: Ptah Nov 2014 #13
Sure. That's why I'm shortly headed to ... Scuba Nov 2014 #14
Yes. LWolf Nov 2014 #15
I love dark ales, but the flesh is weak - it causes more acid than pales. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #21
Oskar Blues = one of the best breweries in the country. Initech Nov 2014 #32
Yes. nt LWolf Nov 2014 #42
oh, i could drink any ole swill until i met my wife ProdigalJunkMail Nov 2014 #16
when I am buying for myself I am Kali Nov 2014 #17
This is me, too. After working out in the sun all day, free cold beer tastes mighty fine. Cheers! Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #29
yep Kali Nov 2014 #33
I love the creativity of the naming and the artistry that goes into the labels. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2014 #41
With me it's worse (or better, depending on how you look at it) DFW Nov 2014 #18
'Beer snobbery' isn't a problem; it's a blessing. Aristus Nov 2014 #19
Fuck that shit Major Nikon Nov 2014 #20
No. Fuck THAT shit. kwassa Nov 2014 #37
Valar Morghulis - for the true beer snob Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #23
I'll be back up there to visit the brewery on Friday! Raine1967 Nov 2014 #25
I've been a fan since they opened Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #26
I've only had Three Philosophers from Ommegang OriginalGeek Nov 2014 #44
Hi, I'm Raine, and I am a beer snob. Raine1967 Nov 2014 #24
don't actually like beer lol EaterOfCabbage Nov 2014 #27
Do you like Wine? Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #35
That is probably my favorite beer of all time. Throd Nov 2014 #48
I love Flanders Red style beers T_i_B Nov 2014 #53
i almost exclusively drink wheats from the breweries here in town fizzgig Nov 2014 #28
Oh yeah. I love micro-brews and brew my own as well. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #34
For every beer you don't like, there's one you might like. Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #36
are you drunk? you posted it sideways .... kwassa Nov 2014 #38
Maybe. Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #39
I pass by a Dogfish Head pub on the way to work everyday ... kwassa Nov 2014 #40
I can appreciate a nice craft brew special IPA...and still drink PBR NightWatcher Nov 2014 #43
I've Probably Drunk A Million Gallons Of Beer... Tace Nov 2014 #45
Schraderbrau! PasadenaTrudy Nov 2014 #46
Nope. Daughter of a man who worked 30 years in the brewing industry. It all tastes the same. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #47
Gasp! bigwillq Nov 2014 #59
MrG thought so too. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #60
I'll pour a little out bigwillq Nov 2014 #61
. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #62
Nope. I'll drink warm Steel Reserve 211. Throd Nov 2014 #49
I'm not a snob ashling Nov 2014 #50
As a rule, I hate beer ... Trajan Nov 2014 #51
Kinda Populist_Prole Nov 2014 #52
UK beer snob and CAMRA member reporting for duty T_i_B Nov 2014 #54
And the awesome beer would be...? I draw the line at "Lite." Prefer Belgian. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #55
Yes. Guilty As Charged ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #56
Surly IPA, The Alchemist, Russian River Brewing Co. - God's tears chrisa Nov 2014 #57
More Michelob Ultra Lite For Me Generic Brad Nov 2014 #58

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
3. Stone IPA.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:21 PM
Nov 2014

Other Stone flavors were gateway beers though. "Arrogant Bastard Ale" was the first. And Ruination IPA is a hop-gasm. Stay away from Levitation Ale though - it's piss, and I don't know why they bother with it.

But if you can't drink pales, Arrogant Bastard is pretty dark, and they make a Smoked Porter. Not as good as the IPAs in my view, but way better than anything you can get from a tap.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,586 posts)
2. Not me. I don't even especially like beer, except maybe if it's a very hot day
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:21 PM
Nov 2014

and the beer is very cold and it's not Bud Light or Miller Light. The only beer I've ever really liked was something called Kwak that I had during a pub-crawl in Amsterdam. Otherwise most beer tastes to me like I imagine goat pee tastes. I tend to be a bit of a coffee snob, though.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
5. My Y chromosome is from the Black Forest, so there's probably some deep physical reason
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:32 PM
Nov 2014

why beer - good beer, anyway - has always tasted right.

But I agree about Bud and Miller - I wouldn't drink that shit even in high school. I always liked Newcastle in my youth: Always tasted like a very clever balance between light and dark. But I can't drink that anymore either - it tastes Minor League now.

On the subject of coffee, isn't it ironic that the best coffee cultures are in warm climates? You'd think cold places would appreciate it more, but the cafe culture is Italy, France, Latin America.

liberal N proud

(60,332 posts)
4. Yes it happens, you taste real beer and you can no longer tolerate the Budweisers of the world
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:22 PM
Nov 2014

Mass production beer is horrible.
But to take that one step further, I don't like the taste of green bottle beer.

True Blue Door

(2,969 posts)
6. Do green bottles get skunked easier?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:36 PM
Nov 2014

Only green bottle beer I ever liked - as a teenager - was Heineken. But it was always very acidic. Sometimes unpleasantly.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
9. yes - it's chemistry. not only green ones - called being Lightstruck
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:44 PM
Nov 2014

Lightstruck beer
Lightstruck, or "skunked" or "skunky", beer has been exposed to ultraviolet and visible light. The light causes riboflavin to react with and break down isohumulones, a molecule that contributes to the bitterness of the beer and is derived from the hops. The resulting molecule, 3-methylbut-2-ene-1-thiol, is very similar chemically and in odour to the musk-borne mercaptans that are a skunk's natural defences.

In some cases, such as Miller High Life, a hop extract that does not have isohumulones is used to bitter the beer so it cannot be "lightstruck". A dark brown glass bottle gives some protection to the beer, but green and clear glass bottles offer virtually no protection at all

There are also other solutions available to prevent beer bottled in clear and green glass from becoming skunked or light-struck, such as taller walls on 6-pack carriers which is common with craft beers, and highlighted in Samuel Adams marketing.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
8. guilty. If can read through it, it is too light!
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:42 PM
Nov 2014

Right now, anticipating my first taste of Alesmith Speedway Stout!

hunter

(38,302 posts)
10. Beer is like cameras.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:46 PM
Nov 2014

It's nice to have an expensive camera, but the best camera is always the one you have with you.

Even the sketchiest quick marts around here sell Lagunitas IPA or Negra Modelo.

I'll even drink a PBR or tall can of malt liquor if I happen to be hanging out with those sorts of crowds.

But I haven't done the beach bum Budweiser & Clamato Chelada Picante for breakfast... yet.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
12. I'm rather particular about my cheap beers/malt liquors.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:43 PM
Nov 2014

Budweiser, Miller High Life? Fine. Bud Light, Miller Lite, anything Coors? Hell no.

Mickey's, Steel Reserve, Olde English? Can't stomach them. King Cobra, Colt 45? I'll drink 'em.

bikebloke

(5,260 posts)
11. Scotch Ale
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:25 PM
Nov 2014

Now I can't drink anything else. And it has to be real scotch ale rather than just printing the name on the label. For years, I drank McEwen's Scotch Ale. Then they stopped importing it. It took a while, But I finally found something comparable - Old Chubb Scotch Ale. I avoided it for a while because it comes in tinnies. When they stop importing it from Colorado, I'll probably give up on beer.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
15. Yes.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 12:47 PM
Nov 2014

I don't like IPAs. I'll drink porter, stout, or a good brown ale. I don't drink beer often because of the calorie load, but I've got this in the refrigerator right now:



Some of the best I can't get unless I travel to the brewery itself; whenever I'm in the region, I'll stop in for one of my favorites:



I'm also fond of this one:

Initech

(100,036 posts)
32. Oskar Blues = one of the best breweries in the country.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:09 PM
Nov 2014

Every single beer they make is amazing, and they're always one of the most consistent.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
16. oh, i could drink any ole swill until i met my wife
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:02 PM
Nov 2014

and she introduced me to good beer... total beer snob now. i can tolerate Guinness or Murphy's if the good stuff ain't around...

sP

Kali

(55,003 posts)
17. when I am buying for myself I am
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:06 PM
Nov 2014

but if it is hot and the cowboys only brought coors light, hell yes I will have a couple.

DFW

(54,277 posts)
18. With me it's worse (or better, depending on how you look at it)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:18 PM
Nov 2014

I hate the taste of ALL beer. Never touch the stuff (and I now live in Germany--disgraceful, ain't it).

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
19. 'Beer snobbery' isn't a problem; it's a blessing.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:37 PM
Nov 2014

I don't consider an appreciation for well-crafted beer to be snobbery. Just good taste. (Literally).

Beer is considered a working-class beverage. Made by and for working people. Brewers are craftsmen (and women), who take pride in fashioning a well-made, delicious product. Appreciating and enjoying that product isn't snobbery.

If people want a mass-produced beer, just to have something to guzzle in large amounts, without regard to taste, aroma, consistency, color, mouth-feel, etc., that's fine. Let them have the Colt 45's and the Stroh's.

I prefer high-quality instead. Plus, if I can support a gifted local brewer over a profit-mad, corner-cutting mass-consumption brewing company, so much the better.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
23. Valar Morghulis - for the true beer snob
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:09 PM
Nov 2014

When confronted with the most feared saying in High Valyrian, take a sip and choose your words wisely.



http://www.ommegang.com/got/valar_morghulis.php

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
25. I'll be back up there to visit the brewery on Friday!
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:32 PM
Nov 2014

It's such a wonderful place to visit.

and their beer? DEVINE!!! ALL of it.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
26. I've been a fan since they opened
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:39 PM
Nov 2014

Mind you I lived in the Boston area for the last 15 years and was surrounded by craft breweries. CBC and Meadhall were regular lunch spots.

But there's something about Ommegang that's just very fine.

I've hauled bottles of Three Philosophers on my backpack, all the way to Lake in the Clouds on Mt Washington. Anybody who's a hiker will appreciate what it means to carry an extra 6 lbs of load up a 6,000 ft peak. Just for the pleasure of celebrating with a fine brew.


OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
44. I've only had Three Philosophers from Ommegang
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:56 PM
Nov 2014

but that was delicious. A while back a local gastro pub advertised a Game of Thrones beer night and was serving the first one on tap - They were sold out within an hour or two of opening the taps. Long before I was able to get there.

The night wasn;t ruined though though - they had about 50 other craft beers on tap so I had some unknown number of those.

Wife drove home that night.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
24. Hi, I'm Raine, and I am a beer snob.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:31 PM
Nov 2014

I blame it on my husband. HE's a home brewer and an AHA beer judge. --- He's brewing a Roggenbier as we speak.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
35. Do you like Wine?
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:53 PM
Nov 2014

Try this beer:



My cousin who hates beer fell in love with this one.

It is a Flanders red ale-style beer produced by Brouwerij Verhaeghe in Vichte, Belgium. After a primary and secondary fermentation, this ale is matured in oak barrels for 18 months. The final product is a blend of a younger 8-month-old beer with an 18-month-old beer. The name of the beer is meant to honour Duchess Mary of Burgundy, the only daughter of Charles the Bold, born in Brussels in 1457, who died in a horse riding accident. Like all Flemish red ales, Duchesse de Bourgogne has a characteristically sour, fruity flavour similar to that of lambic beers.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
48. That is probably my favorite beer of all time.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:41 PM
Nov 2014

It isn't the type of beer that you want to drink a lot of, but if I can only have one beer, it will be the Duchesse.

T_i_B

(14,735 posts)
53. I love Flanders Red style beers
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:33 PM
Nov 2014

Wild Beer Co "Modus Operandi" is a big personal favourite.

Wild Beer Co being one of the most exciting breweries in the UK.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
28. i almost exclusively drink wheats from the breweries here in town
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 04:42 PM
Nov 2014

but i'm not too proud for cheap beer, either. i'm perfectly happy with a pbr or high life when i'm at the dive.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
34. Oh yeah. I love micro-brews and brew my own as well.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:45 PM
Nov 2014

Your traditional domestics* taste like crap compared to micro-brews.

If you like a WICKED GOOD double IPA -

Try this stuff:


http://www.newenglandbrewing.com/brews.php

There's a few nano-brews (growler fill only) that I like to stop at as well.


*Interesting to note, but the big domestics are all foreign owned. When you choose to drink craft beer and micro-brews, you're choosing American beer.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
40. I pass by a Dogfish Head pub on the way to work everyday ...
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:14 PM
Nov 2014

I do not stop.

Though I think about it.

60, 90, or 120?

Tace

(6,800 posts)
45. I've Probably Drunk A Million Gallons Of Beer...
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:22 PM
Nov 2014

...but I've become concerned about the estrogen in hops. I'm generally drinking wine, instead, lately. btw, we've got the best freaking beer in the universe here in Vermont. Wish you were here. --Tace.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
47. Nope. Daughter of a man who worked 30 years in the brewing industry. It all tastes the same.
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:49 PM
Nov 2014

Like crap, and it's "emperor's new clothes syndrome" to pay eleventy billion dollars for something that tastes exactly the same —except more bitter or with fruit added (!)— than plain old Old Milwaukee.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
51. As a rule, I hate beer ...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:35 PM
Nov 2014

But, when I moved to Portland "Beervana" Oregon, I discovered the amazing beauty and taste of craft brewed ales, and now I can actually tolerate drinking a beer now and then ...

I hated Budweiser from day one, and learned to dislike all the standard brews from the standard multi-national corporations ... If I didn't have local microbrews to drink, I wouldn't even bother drinking any beer ...

Did I mention that, as a rule, I dislike beer? ...

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
52. Kinda
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:03 PM
Nov 2014

My taste in beer, when it comes to types and sub-types, is pretty broad.

I just can't stand the watery tasteless light / "Lite" beer so many people around me seem to love so much. They'll have nothing but it, and so, if I'm offered a beer by one of them I know its gonna suck.

T_i_B

(14,735 posts)
54. UK beer snob and CAMRA member reporting for duty
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:41 PM
Nov 2014

I live in a part of the UK that's renowned for great beer and great pubs. In fact it's only a short distance for me to get to the Kelham Island area of Sheffield, still the best pub crawl in the UK and the place to find the strangest of all the beer geeks......."tickers".

Favourite UK breweries include Bristol Beer Factory, Hawkshead, Saltaire, Marble, Darkstar and Siren Craft.

Favourite UK beer is currently Oakham Citra, which is fabulously flavoursome and yet still the sort of beer you can have pint after pint of.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
56. Yes. Guilty As Charged
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:57 PM
Nov 2014

I'm very committed to it as well.

I've been to a friend's house and he offered a beer and i'll say no because i know he won't have what i'll drink.

However, if i leave something over there, it will be gone the next time i go over. So, the snobery only works in one direction.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
58. More Michelob Ultra Lite For Me
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:01 PM
Nov 2014

I don't drink beer often, but when I do it's that crap. Low alcohol content and low calorie. That's all I can handle as I continue aging.

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