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raccoon

(31,110 posts)
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 08:08 AM Jan 2015

"Died" vs. "murdered." Just a pet peeve of mine.

Heard someone say that John Lennon died. Well, yes, he did. But I just think we ought to say it differently. Just saying "died," to me, ignores the murderer's part in it.

John Lennon was murdered.

IN COLD BLOOD, Capote writes:

"But then, Nancy (Clutter) had died."

Here again, how about:

"But then, Nancy (Clutter) had been murdered."

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Bucky

(53,997 posts)
1. I think sometimes people want to focus on the loss rather than the violence.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 08:58 AM
Jan 2015

That's why God gave us synonyms. Maybe you could find a nice compromise.

Something like "And then Lincoln passed on... from the murdering."

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
2. I have to agree that one focuses on the loss (died) while the other focuses on the crime (murder)...
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jan 2015

I think for many of us--this many years after the murderer had gone to trial and been dealt with--the focus naturally reverts back to the loss.

Those who don't immediately connect that loss to the horrendous circumstances of his death are likely far too young or astonishingly uninformed to know who Lennon was to begin with.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
4. wow... I guess that is what happens when one posts on DU while concurrently monitoring a conference
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jan 2015

call--and a boring one at that.

No, I did not think John Lennon to be Lenin-like.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
6. Oh, please... Have you never done something similar when multi-tasking?
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:09 AM
Jan 2015

I'd already explained and corrected BEFORE you posted your snark.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
7. Your post 6:59, my post 7:00.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:22 AM
Jan 2015

It wasn't snark, I thought it amusing that you would confuse the two.
Oh, please... Have you never had a post similarly slipped in when multi-tasking?
(THIS is snark since you wanted it. I had a great New Year's, sorry for yours.)

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
8. All can see for themselves.
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jan 2015

And yes, I had a very nice New Year--sorry to disappoint... And no, I didn't confuse the two, just the subconscious spelling while doing something else concurrently. Snark off.

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