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Original Patent For Perforated Toilet Paper On A Roll Solves Over Vs. Under Debate Once And For All
By Mary Beth Quirk March 17, 2015
After pitting loved ones and enemies alike against each other for what feels like all of human existence, it seems we may finally have a definitive winner in the over vs. under toilet paper draping debate.
Though there are still likely to be those who remain loyal to the under side of the line, as writer Owen Williams points out on Twitter, Seth Wheelers original patent for his perforated toilet paper invention in 1891 shows the paper in an over position, indicating that that is how its meant to be used.
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Wheelers Albany Perforated Wrapping Paper Company was the first in the world to make perforated toilet paper, originally patenting that idea in 1871 (PDF) before the 1891 patent added the roll aspect.
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We who put it under are merely improving the original design. Happens all the time. Besides, the original drawing wouldn't have been as clear if he'd drawn it for proper use.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Over if not. Over is more susceptible to errant unraveling at the hands or paws of the uninitiated.
Over is more manageable for legitimate uses, closer to the hand and easier to see where the perforations are.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)To do so over, means to do it for convenience and faster dispensing.
To do so under, means cats can't just roll it around to waste as easily, unless they shred it, then all bets are off the table.
struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)Optical.Catalyst
(1,355 posts)If Seth had verified his toilet paper dispensing method using cats, the patent would have shown the roll in the under position. Follow on test and evaluation had demonstrated the utility of positioning the roll in the under position. There should have been an engineering change proposal submitted to correct the deficiency of the design.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)Ptah
(33,024 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)left on top of the tank.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,680 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)who has their priorities in order.
panader0
(25,816 posts)My roll sits on the counter. Alas no "dispenser".
fishwax
(29,149 posts)It is shows as it is in order to make the perforation more visible, but without the context of a holder/wall, you can't really tell if it is over or under.
Also, the patent is for the perforation -- the rolls themselves already existed.
Not that I really care one way or another, but ...
Archae
(46,318 posts)So I keep the toilet paper on the shelf above the toilet.
benld74
(9,904 posts)Got REAL tired of re-rolling claw perforated paper back on the roll,,,,,,
Archae
(46,318 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)There is a God!
Ron Obvious
(6,261 posts)I just leave them on the floor when I get a new one out of the pack. Works just as easily. My wife eventually puts it in the holder after a while. I'd probably never get around to it.
She hasn't left me over it yet.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)and I put it over.
It doesn't matter much to either of us. Cat free household.