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Tue Jun 30, 2015, 01:34 PM

Some Minor Crotchets about Beer

Oneth, this is NOT about how beer was better in the 'Good Old Days', it wasn't. It's better now. But I have a few minor complaints.

A: Every IPA does not have to be a hop bomb. It seems brewers are trying to make the hoppiest beers possible. Somebody brews a 100 IBU beer, and somebody else HAS to top that. The original IPAs were hoppy, but not the bombs we see now.

B: There are other brewing traditions beside the Belgian. Again, it seems almost every brewer is making sours, abbeys, dubbels, tripels, quadrupels, fruit beers, saisons and so on. Actually a reaction seems to have begun against this. One local brewery is brewing Scottish ales, another specializes in German beers and so on.

C: Stop just showing off. You make bad beers. One brewer, New Belgium I think it was, had a cooperative beer where it seemed one brewer wanted to make a saison, one wanted to make a fruit beer and one wanted to make a sour. They ended up making a mess.

D: Respect the style. Pilsener does not have rice in it. You don't barrel age Helles. Dark rye fruit kolsch (the brewer stopped making it) was an abomination.

Wolf

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Reply Some Minor Crotchets about Beer (Original post)
Wolf Frankula Jun 2015 OP
KamaAina Jun 2015 #1
geardaddy Jun 2015 #7
Brother Buzz Jul 2015 #19
NRaleighLiberal Jun 2015 #2
Xipe Totec Jun 2015 #3
Throd Jun 2015 #4
ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #21
lame54 Jun 2015 #5
demmiblue Jun 2015 #6
geardaddy Jun 2015 #8
pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #11
Wolf Frankula Jul 2015 #12
geardaddy Jun 2015 #9
bigwillq Jun 2015 #10
T_i_B Jul 2015 #13
clarice Jul 2015 #14
clarice Jul 2015 #15
T_i_B Jul 2015 #16
clarice Jul 2015 #17
T_i_B Jul 2015 #18
clarice Jul 2015 #23
T_i_B Jul 2015 #24
clarice Jul 2015 #25
chknltl Jul 2015 #20
Paulie Jul 2015 #22

Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:12 PM

1. Even Lagunitas is backing off from the hops

 

with the ironically named Sucks.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:39 PM

7. I felt thought Lagunitas was one of the least hoppy of the IPAs

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:59 AM

19. Lagunitas makes a totally respectable IPA

And it's pretty much the only Lagunitas product I see that makes it to the kegs for wide distribution to the the pubs and restaurants. Lagunitas got into trouble bottling a ton of heavenly hopped gimmick beers the neophytes fell for and learned to hate.

I love my barley sandwiches, and even thought my go-to drink, and benchmark for all things Pale Ale is Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, Lagunitas IPA is defiantly in my rotation.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 02:41 PM

2. that's why we stick to stouts and porters. Great selection out there!

Bells Expedition, Rasputin, Founders Breakfast, alesmith Speedway, Lagunitas Capuccino, Oskar Blues Ten Fidy are all on our regular drinking rotation - and we are always on the lookout for more!

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:05 PM

4. Shitty brewers hide behind hops like shitty guitarists hide behind distortion pedals.

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Response to Throd (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:00 PM

21. Pfffft!

That's nonsense and you know it.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:26 PM

5. you lost me in the intro...

movin' on

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:34 PM

6. I read the title of your OP wrong. I was expecting this:





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Response to demmiblue (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:39 PM

8. Me too!

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 05:16 PM

11. DUzy!

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 03:58 AM

12. Is That a can of Wookie Jack?

Chewbacca's favorite beer.

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:40 PM

9. There's hoppy for hoppy's sake

and there's hoppy that well-balanced. I tend to prefer hoppier beers, but I agree some are just nasty hop bombs.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 04:44 PM

10. Really been into IPA's lately.

 

I really like Two Roads. It's based out of Stratford, CT. Not sure if they sell it out of state or not.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:56 AM

13. We all have our beery gripes

For instance I'm a CAMRA member, and as such I can get hung up on method of dispense. Some beer styles like mild and bitter only seem to work on cask. On the other hand, even I can accept that sour lambic style beers are better suited to keg.

Other beery gripes of mine include use of crystal malt with new world hops, beers made with chilli, beers made with peat smoked malt and beers made with cinnamon.

If you want IPA's that aren't massive hop bombs try looking for IPAs made with British hops. British hops are not looked on as well as the newer varieties but they make for IPA's closer to the original ones.

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:26 AM

14. I've learned over the years that two things DON'T go together.....

 

Lots of beer......and the phrase.."Hey, watch THIS !!!!!!"

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:28 AM

15. Has anyone tried a British ale called "Old Peculiar" ? nt

 

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Response to clarice (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 10:45 AM

16. Many times

As you'd expect for a Yorkshire beer geek.

It's a pretty good beer.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:02 AM

17. It is a little hard to find over here. nt

 

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Response to clarice (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:32 AM

18. Readily available over here

Although it must be noted that Old Peculiar is very unfashionable at the moment, with big new world hopped IPA's and weird and wacky stuff from the likes of Siren Craft and Wild Beer Co being the in thing right now.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:35 PM

23. Just because they are "in" doesn't change the classics. IMHO.

 

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Response to clarice (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:32 AM

24. Thinking about this...

...if you were to ask people for a list of classic UK beers, you'd probably get more modern stuff then long established traditional bitters and dark ales.

You would probably get a few mentions for the likes of Hopback Summer Lightning, Harveys Sussex Best Bitter and the aforementioned Old Peculiar, but more people citing beers such as Thornbridge Jaipur and Oakham Citra, plus quite a few beers from Brewdog and Kernel as being classics.

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Response to T_i_B (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:02 AM

25. I agree. There are some really good newer brews. nt

 

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 02:15 PM

20. A video titled I Need A Beer

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:11 PM

22. As long as my smuggled supply of Spotted Cow comes down from the cheddar north

I be happy. Bless Wisconsin.

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