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Daytona 500 (Original Post) warrprayer Feb 2016 OP
No cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1
I will warrprayer Feb 2016 #2
Let Those Citizens Without TVs Know How Things Turnout cantbeserious Feb 2016 #3
I consider it warrprayer Feb 2016 #6
Thanks for the rec! warrprayer Feb 2016 #8
Didn't I just comment on this? House of Roberts Feb 2016 #4
Yup! warrprayer Feb 2016 #5
The NASCAR Fan demographic is quite fascinating..... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2016 #32
You, Sir, are an interesting demographic if there ever was one. nt cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #36
No, car racing isn't my thing. But I hope it's a fun race for those who petronius Feb 2016 #7
Thanks, and a reminder warrprayer Feb 2016 #9
No. I don't get it. LiberalElite Feb 2016 #10
... warrprayer Feb 2016 #13
They're turning left! They're turning left! In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #11
I love turning left! warrprayer Feb 2016 #12
Truth.... warrprayer Feb 2016 #15
Unless you're at Watkins Glen ... Myrina Feb 2016 #20
That... warrprayer Feb 2016 #21
Or Sonoma. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2016 #31
When I was a young man I liked stock car racing. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #14
Once upon a time warrprayer Feb 2016 #16
Forgot to add the pic... warrprayer Feb 2016 #17
I remember a new one in the showroom at my local Chrysler dealer. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #18
Because warrprayer Feb 2016 #22
It's an interesting history. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #26
Did you know Mnpaul Feb 2016 #56
No, I didn't know about that. Cool. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #59
It had to be that big Mnpaul Feb 2016 #60
NASCAR has made it difficult to be a fan anymore ... Myrina Feb 2016 #19
You can't... warrprayer Feb 2016 #23
Hah. I paid very little attention last season ... Myrina Feb 2016 #25
Me too! warrprayer Feb 2016 #28
Not when I can listen to F3 and F4 noise whenever I want! kentauros Feb 2016 #24
Rich mans sport warrprayer Feb 2016 #27
What autosport kentauros Feb 2016 #29
Totally cool! warrprayer Feb 2016 #37
There are many that are affordable Mnpaul Feb 2016 #57
The only drag racing I'd want to see kentauros Feb 2016 #61
I will be watching.... Brother Buzz Feb 2016 #30
That sounds good warrprayer Feb 2016 #38
I have no problems understanding southern drawls, it's just the Waltrip brothers Brother Buzz Feb 2016 #44
Totally see warrprayer Feb 2016 #45
Bill Elliot's son, Chase, got pole position today OxQQme Feb 2016 #33
Thanks for the news! warrprayer Feb 2016 #39
Nobody was smiling more than Jeff Gordon and a cool backstory how Chase kept No. 24 Brother Buzz Feb 2016 #47
Interesting! warrprayer Feb 2016 #48
Television doesn't do the speedway justice. Hotler Feb 2016 #34
That would give me bike fright warrprayer Feb 2016 #41
You're right Hotler OxQQme Feb 2016 #50
I agree.... Hotler Feb 2016 #51
Oh yeah...the music OxQQme Feb 2016 #52
If you ever get a chance to go to and watch... Hotler Feb 2016 #55
Television makes it look easy Mnpaul Feb 2016 #58
Nahh, a few hours of guys going left gets kind of boring CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #35
Different motorsports warrprayer Feb 2016 #42
No (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #40
Yup warrprayer Feb 2016 #43
Oh yeah, I love racing..... ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #46
Have Buffalo wings warrprayer Feb 2016 #49
The Ultimate Turn Left Motorsport OxQQme Feb 2016 #53
Reminds me warrprayer Feb 2016 #54
Owner of NASCAR SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #62
Hope this helps warrprayer Mar 2016 #63
No. Never have, never will. GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #64
Nope. Chan790 Mar 2016 #65
I love warrprayer Mar 2016 #66
yes BlueCollar Mar 2016 #67

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
5. Yup!
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:04 PM
Feb 2016

"If there's one thing that NASCAR drivers are famous for, it's turning left. Apparently it's the same for its fans.

Polling amongst NASCAR fans isn't looking good for Mitt Romney, who is behind Barack Obama by seven percentage points — 41% to 48%.

The poll, conducted by polling pollsters Zogby, showed that NASCAR's loyal fan base are actually in Barack Obama's corner, so to speak. The crosstabs show a small sampling, but those who identify as NASCAR fans prefer the president."

http://jalopnik.com/5945896/poll-shows-barack-obama-leads-mitt-romney-amongst-nascar-fans

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
32. The NASCAR Fan demographic is quite fascinating.....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

from a human interest perspective, if not a socioeconomic one.

It has morphed, and quite by design, if I may say, from the classic caricature of the "Good Ol' Boy" to a series that does it's best to appeal to women (who they discovered years ago make most of the household purchases) as well as families completely.

NASCAR as a marketing entity has done the best they could with the tools they had to make the series into something watchable on TV as well as the track. Their biggest problem (it seems to me) continues to be ticket prices in a difficult economic environment for the majority of its fan base. Taking a family of four to the race will run well in excess of $400 for race day alone. If you don't live within driving distance, add in either hotels or RV costs and you are looking at the better part of a grand for a 3 to 4 hour event.

Add extra days and you get a break on the per-day rate, but still, it ain't cheap.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
7. No, car racing isn't my thing. But I hope it's a fun race for those who
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:14 PM
Feb 2016

do watch, and safe for those on the track...

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
31. Or Sonoma.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

That's one thing I loved about the Indy Car series back in the 90's.

1 Mile ovals, 1.5 mile ovals, 2 mile Super Speedways, 2.5 mile Super Speedways, street courses and 3 different natural terrain tracks.

Throw in the only race in the world where each seat has about the same view of the entire course(Burke Lakefront Airport, Cleveland) and you had a race series with the most diversification of track types in the world.

And sure, If I'm home, I'll probably watch the 500. It's only ~90 miles down the road, but I'll have a better view on the TV

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
14. When I was a young man I liked stock car racing.
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

I don't watch now because the cars are nothing at all like production vehicles. They now even run weird one off engines that don't exist in the production line up. IIRC only the GM engines actually exist in production.

warrprayer

(4,734 posts)
16. Once upon a time
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:37 PM
Feb 2016

You could buy one of fhese from a dealer.
They made it available to keep NASCAR from outlawing the 426 Hemi.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. I remember a new one in the showroom at my local Chrysler dealer.
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:26 AM
Feb 2016

Before that there was the Charger 500. The back glass was flush like on the Daytona but otherwise it was a regular charger. I believe the standard engine was a 426 HEMI. I only saw the one but they did build 500.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
56. Did you know
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

that the huge wing wasn't for downforce? It was the vertical sections that made the car stable at high speeds much in the same way a vertical stabilizer works on an airplane.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
60. It had to be that big
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:35 AM
Feb 2016

NASCAR rules at the time required the trunk to open. The wing had to be that big to clear the trunk lid.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
19. NASCAR has made it difficult to be a fan anymore ...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:56 AM
Feb 2016

... too many commercials, sponsor-focused 'human interest' snippets, and moving to the cable networks (FS1 / NBCSports) for most of the season has removed it from 'the common fan' ... so I'll watch but not nearly with as much on-going interest as I have in the past.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
25. Hah. I paid very little attention last season ...
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:38 PM
Feb 2016

... I don't have cable so what I was able to see was few & far between ... I noticed watching DIS qualifying yesterday that there are quite a few new / unknown names in the pits ... and holy cow, Matt Kenseth has been in NASCAR for 20 years already?

Shit I'm old.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
29. What autosport
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:52 PM
Feb 2016
isn't a rich man's sport? Even the "supercars" I'd love to have the opportunity to at least drive once are only for the wealthy (or the presenters on shows like Top Gear.)

However, anyone can go and see any race. I just find formula and rally races far more exciting and interesting

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
57. There are many that are affordable
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

local stock car racing
drag racing
gymkana
24 hours LeMons racing
Chump car
demo derbys

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
61. The only drag racing I'd want to see
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:42 AM
Feb 2016

would be the all electric kind. I just don't go to races of any kind. I do like that stuff; just don't get out to them

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
30. I will be watching....
Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

And I'm happy Fox sports hired Jeff Gordon for race analyst. He has a vocabulary exceeding fifty words and can actually string words together into cohesive thoughts, and his native California dialect is easy on my ears.

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
44. I have no problems understanding southern drawls, it's just the Waltrip brothers
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

and their hillbilly caterwauling I can't decipher. There are times when that idiot, Michael Waltrip makes G W Bush sound like a Rhodes Scholar road scholar. (see what I did there? )

Brother Buzz

(36,412 posts)
47. Nobody was smiling more than Jeff Gordon and a cool backstory how Chase kept No. 24
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016
Numbers game: Why Chase Elliott will keep the No. 24

By Tom Jensen Jan 29, 2016

It was no real surprise that Chase Elliott was announced Thursday as Jeff Gordon's replacement in the No. 24 Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.

What may have surprised some fans is that when Elliott takes over for Gordon in 2016, he will keep Gordon's No. 24.

After all, the Elliott family number is the No. 9: Chase's father, Bill, who will be inducted into the NASCAR Hall of Fame Friday night, scored 38 of his 44 career Sprint Cup victories in the No. 9, and Chase won the NASCAR Xfinity Series title last year in a No. 9 JR Motorsports Chevrolet.

Currently, Richard Petty Motorsports uses the No. 9 in the Sprint Cup Series, but teams have been known to trade numbers, often in exchange for undisclosed sums of cash. An accommodation probably could have been reached.

But Chase Elliott said he was thrilled to be able to keep Gordon's number when he moves up.

"I think having the honor of driving the No. 24 is something that a racer can only dream of," Elliott said during Thursday's final stop on the Charlotte Motor Speedway Media Tour presented by Technocom. "Honestly, that is such an iconic number. It's a legendary number.

"And for Jeff to tell me that he wants me to drive the No. 24, that right there is plenty enough for me to be on board with it," said Elliott. "He asked me if I was OK with that, and if we were shaking hands, I'd have ripped his arm off. That's an opportunity that nobody would turn down."

For his part, Gordon is totally on board with it, although team owner Rick Hendrick tried to talk him into putting the No. 24 on sabbatical for 2016 only.

"Rick threw that option out to me," Gordon said of not running the No. 24. "He kind of wanted to retire it for maybe a year or something like that. ... For me, seeing it out there is important. I think the fans, while some of them might have a strong opinion thinking it should be retired, when they see how well he (Elliott) does in it, I think they're going to be really glad he's driving that 24 car."

Hotler

(11,415 posts)
34. Television doesn't do the speedway justice.
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:02 AM
Feb 2016

You have to see it up close or race there in order to truly appreciate it. I used to roadrace motorcycles in the mid 80's late 90's and rode Daytona many times. 160+mph on a superbike on the banking is a eye opener the first time.

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
50. You're right Hotler
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

Seeing the track in person amazes the senses. The enormity. The steep banks.
I wasn't a 'rider' but a 'wrench' for a pro expert Triumph team and was there in '67 & '68 competing.
(500cc OHV vs 750cc flatheads era)
But, ya know what? As a feet-on-the-ground or a butt-on-the-slat spectator---it SUCKED!
Why? Limited view of the whole track.

Give me a view over Harvick's/Logano's/Danica's shoulder with a camera that tilts---TILTS-as the car rolls into the banking.
Or a looking back angle from under the car at the front air splitter of the car that's inches behind-- at 200mph.
Or the 'gopher cam' with the subwoofer cranked.....WEE CRANK IT UP! :0)
A view from inside the fender showing glowing red brake rotors.
Helmet cams on the tire changers.
This year we'll be given views of the new digital dashes.
I hope they utilize the drone cam again this year.

I salute the TV camera crew and the logistics of moving all that gear weekly.
thank you also to the safety committee people.



Hotler

(11,415 posts)
51. I agree....
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

I don't follow all the stock car races, but I do try and catch the super speedways and especially the road courses. Next to stock car I like the Rolex-24 and the 12-hrs. of Sebring, glowing brake rotors there for sure. I've been at Daytona when the stock cars are doing practice by themselves and the sound of a small-block singing at high revs is music to my ears.

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
52. Oh yeah...the music
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:00 AM
Feb 2016

I find it fascinating that there is a different sound of each brand's V8s.
Another cool tune was the factory Harley's flathead's at full song.



Some good footage here of the type of racing I was involved in --> ya might wanna turn the volume down before you click play



Sideways at 100mph

Hotler

(11,415 posts)
55. If you ever get a chance to go to and watch...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:47 AM
Feb 2016

the Springfield Mile in person do it. You will not regret it. Three wide sideways in the corners at 100mph, and 130 down the back straight.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
58. Television makes it look easy
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:13 PM
Feb 2016

I got a feel of what it is really like on my NASCAR Sim with a force feedback wheel. In realistic mode, it is difficult to do for 25 laps much less 200. The NASCAR Sim is so realistic that you have to make corrections on the wheel when someone pulls out behind you. It was always fun when friends wanted to give it a go. They usually couldn't make it more than a few labs.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
35. Nahh, a few hours of guys going left gets kind of boring
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:05 AM
Feb 2016

On that rare occasion I watch cars go really fast it's more Formula One for me.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
46. Oh yeah, I love racing.....
Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

always have. Sad that Jeff Gordon won't be there anymore, but I'll find someone else to root for.

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
53. The Ultimate Turn Left Motorsport
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:48 AM
Feb 2016

All European countrys field teams. Huge sport there.
500cc alchohol burners
Jump in to 6:00 for first heat race

SCantiGOP

(13,868 posts)
62. Owner of NASCAR
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

And several drivers just endorsed Trump. Less than 5%, maybe as low as 2%, of any NASCAR crowd are Democrats.
But you will find plenty of Confederate flags and red "Great Again" baseball caps.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
65. Nope.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

Even growing up in a household full of NASCAR fans, I've never been even remotely interested in auto-sports. They'd watch the race and I'd root for the long red flag so I could get some peace and quiet to read.

BlueCollar

(3,859 posts)
67. yes
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 AM
Mar 2016

But it will be on in the background. I used to look down on NASCAR but after watching for a few seasons I have learned that there are many nuances that make up a NASCAR race.

It is actually a very complicated series of events that go into driving around the track 200 times at speeds averaging close to 200 MPH.

Although strides have thankfully been made in safety, compared to F1 and Indy Series racing, the cars are nowhere nearly as safe furthering my appreciation for the courage of the drivers.

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