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The topic is Hernan Cortes. Ask me anything (Original Post) Xipe Totec Nov 2016 OP
Let me get this started... How many times was Hernan Cortes Buried? Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #1
Where did he come down on the "is a hotdog a sandwich?" debate? NightWatcher Nov 2016 #2
Dude, he IS the hot dawg! Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #3
Not "is," but "was" DFW Nov 2016 #6
A little theme song for your topic: malthaussen Nov 2016 #4
Too bad replies can't be recommended. Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #10
Agreed, good song! Tom Kitten Nov 2016 #13
How long did it take him..... DFW Nov 2016 #5
He's still working on it. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #7
I can imagine DFW Nov 2016 #8
Look Up David Bowles Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #9
Where was his hideaway? Here: trof Nov 2016 #11
Actually, here - Hospital de Jesus Nazareno Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #12

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
3. Dude, he IS the hot dawg!
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:10 PM
Nov 2016

He missed his first chance to go to the New World because he broke his ankle jumping off a fence, because he was almost caught shtupping a married woman. He was a teenager at the time.

Only the intervention of the neighbors saved his life.

But he missed traveling to the New World With Orellana, 10 years earlier than otherwise.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
6. Not "is," but "was"
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:20 PM
Nov 2016

Number one on the Nahuatl shit list for a few centuries, I imagine, until Donald Trump took over some four centuries later.

Tom Kitten

(7,346 posts)
13. Agreed, good song!
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:12 PM
Nov 2016

That was one of the first albums I bought, when I was 15.
And then there's this, by Neil...

DFW

(54,341 posts)
8. I can imagine
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 03:58 PM
Nov 2016

I traveled through Guerrero once, heard plenty of Nahuatl. It didn't sound like it could be picked up in a week. I have no problem with Spanish, since I used to live in Spain, and Mexico, compared to some parts of Latin America, speaks a clear and accessible Spanish. But I don't know any American languages, and they don't seem very simple from a superficial listening. I could be wrong, though. When I first heard Swedish, I thought it would be impossible to learn, and it turned out to be the easiest language I ever tried to learn.

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
9. Look Up David Bowles
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 06:46 PM
Nov 2016

I met him in person here in the lower Rio Grande Valley. Cool dude, very approachable, very knowledgeable.


http://davidbowles.us/category/poetry/translations/nahuatl/

You can also find him on FB; one of the few people worth having as FB friend.


trof

(54,256 posts)
11. Where was his hideaway? Here:
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 06:56 PM
Nov 2016

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Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
12. Actually, here - Hospital de Jesus Nazareno
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 07:20 PM
Nov 2016

The Church and Hospital are supposedly located at the spot where Hernán Cortés and Moctezuma II met for the first time in 1519, which was then the beginning of the causeway leading to Iztapalapa. Cortés ordered the hospital built to tend to Aztec soldiers wounded fighting with the Spanish.
In his last will, Cortés clearly states that he wanted the hospital to be built for the sons of the Aztec warriors who had perished in battle during the Conquest of Tenochtitlan. This was not an institution for wounded Spanish soldiers. It was built many years after the Spanish conquest of the Aztec empire.
In 1646, the hospital was the site of the first autopsies performed on the American continent, performed to teach anatomy to medical students of the Royal and Pontifical University of Mexico. In 1715, the hospital published the Regia Academia Mariana Practica Medica to promote more professional practices in the field of medicine in New Spain. The building today continues to function as a hospital.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital_de_Jes%C3%BAs_Nazareno





In 1794, Cortés' bones were moved to the "Hospital de Jesus" (founded by Cortés), where a statue by Tolsa and a mausoleum were made. There was a public ceremony and all the churches in the city rang their bells.

In 1823, after the independence of México, it seemed imminent that his body would be desecrated, so the mausoleum was removed, the statue and the coat of arms were sent to Palermo, Sicily, to be protected by the Duke of Terranova. The bones were hidden, and everyone thought that they had been sent out of México. In 1836, his bones were moved to another place in the same building.

It was not until November 24, 1946 that they were rediscovered, thanks to the discovery of a secret document by Lucas Alamán.

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