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red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 10:06 PM Dec 2016

Any Harlan Ellison fans out there?

Last edited Sun Jan 1, 2017, 05:30 PM - Edit history (3)

Harlan Jay Ellison, born May 27, 1934, is an American writer.
His principal genre is "speculative fiction."and "fantasy."

Ellison has been called "one of the great living American short story writers" by the Washington Post.
The Los Angeles Times said: "It's long past time for Harlan Ellison to be awarded the title,
20th Century Lewis Carroll."
In a career spanning more than 40 years, he has won more awards for the 75 books he has written or edited, the more than 1700 stories, essays, articles, and newspaper columns, the two dozen teleplays, and the dozen motion pictures he has created, than any other living fantasist.
He has won the Hugo Award 8 times, the Nebula Award 3 times, the Bram Stoker Award, presented by the Horror Writers Association 6 times, the Edgar Allen Poe Award of the Mystery Writers of America twice, the Georges Melies Fantasy Award twice, 2 Audie Awards (for the best in audio recordings), and was awarded the Silver Pen for Journalism by P.E.N., the International Writers Union (this prestigious accolade was presented for his columns in the L.A. Weekly, titled "An Edge in My Voice," in defense of the First Amendment)
He was presented with the first Living Legend Award by the International Horror Critics at the 1995 World Horror Convention.
He is also the only author in Hollywood ever to win the Writers Guild of America Award for Most Outstanding Teleplay (solo work) 4 times.
His two books of TV essays, "The Glass Teat" and "The Other Glass Teat" have sold millions of copies and are currently being taught in media classes in more than 200 American universities.
Ellison has traveled with rock groups such as The Rolling Stones, and his novel of the rock scene "Spider Kiss" is called by music critic Grel Marcus "the finest novel about the world of rock in the past quarter century."

He wrote the screenplay for "The Oscar" starring Steven Boyd and Elke Sommer.
Ellison also sold scripts to many television shows, including "Burke's Law," "Route 66," "The Outer Limits," "Star Trek," "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." "Cimarron Strip," and "The Alfred Hitchcock Hour."

Ellison's screenplay for the Star Trek episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" has been considered the best of the 79 episodes in the series.

His most well-known works include "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream" and
"A Boy and His Dog" which was made into the 1975 film of the same name starring Don Johnson.

There are also many anthologies of Ellison's work, including my personal favorite,
"The Essential Ellison"
Another great anthology of his is "Stalking The Nightmare" which contains an outstanding trio of short stories called: "The 3 Most Important Things in Life"

I especially love the short stories, "Driving In the Spikes" and an autobiographical story called "Gopher in the Gilly"

A life-long Democrat and progressive activist, Ellison participated in the Selma to Montgomery marches, from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, led by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

In 1966, in an article Esquire magazine would later name as the best magazine piece ever written, the journalist Gay Talese wrote about the goings-on around the enigmatic Frank Sinatra.
The article, entitled "Frank Sinatra Has a Cold," briefly describes a clash between the young Harlan Ellison and Frank Sinatra. when the crooner took exception to Ellison's boots during a billiards game.
Talese wrote of the incident, "Sinatra probably forgot about it at once, but Ellison will remember it all his life."

(From the Gay Talese article: "Frank Sinatra Has a Cold&quot

"The room cracked with the clack of billiard balls..There were about a dozen spectators in the room, most of them were young men who were watching Leo Durocher shoot against two other aspiring hustlers who were not very good.
This private drinking club has among it's membership many actors, directors, writers, models, nearly all of them a good deal younger than Sinatra or Durocher and much more casual in the way they dress for the evening.
Many of the young women, their long hair flowing loosely below their shoulders, wore tight, fanny-fitting Jax pants and very expensive sweaters, and a few of the young men wore blue or green velour shirts with high collars, narrow tight pants, and Italian loafers.
It was obvious from the way Sinatra looked at these people in the poolroom that they were not his style, but he leaned back against a high stool that was against the wall, holding his drink in his right hand, and said nothing, just watched Durocher slam the billiard balls back and forth.
The younger men in the room, accustomed to seeing Sinatra at this club, treated him without deference, although they said nothing offensive.
They were a cool young group, very California-cool and casual, and one of the coolest seemed to be a little guy, very quick of movement, who had a sharp profile, pale blue eyes, blondish hair, and squared eyeglasses.
He wore a pair of brown corduroy slacks, a green shaggy-dog Shetland sweater, a tan suede jacket, and Game Warden boots, for which he had recently paid $60.

Frank Sinatra, leaning against the stool, sniffling a bit from his cold, could not take his eyes of the Game Warden boots.
Once, after gazing at them for a few moments, he turned away; but now he was focused on them again.
The owner of the boots, who was just standing in them watching the pool game, was named Harlan Ellison, a writer who had just completed work on a screenplay, "The Oscar."

Frank Sinatra could not contain himself.

"Hey," he yelled in his slightly harsh voice that still had a soft, sharp edge, "Those Italian boots?"

"No," Ellison said.

"Spanish?"

"No."

"Are they English boots?"

"Look, I donno, man." Ellison shot back, frowning at Sinatra, then turning away again.

Now the poolroom was suddenly silent...Leo Durocher who had been poised behind his cue stick and was bent low just froze in that position...Nobody moved...Then Sinatra moved away from the stool and walked with that slow, arrogant swagger of his, toward Ellison, the hard tap of Sinatra's shoes the only sound in the room....Then, looking down at Ellison with a slightly raised eyebrow and a tricky little smile, Sinatra said: "You expecting a storm?"

Harlan Ellison moved a step to the side.
"Look, is there any reason why you're talking to me?"

"I don't like the way you're dressed." Sinatra said.

"Hate to shake you up," Ellison said, "but I dress to suit myself."

Now there was some rumbling in the room, and somebody said,
"Com'on, Harlan, lets get out of here," and Leo Durocher made his pool shot and said,
"Yeah, com'on."

But Ellison stood his ground.

Sinatra said, "What do you do?"

"I'm a plumber," Ellison said.

"No, no, he's not," another young man quickly yelled from across the table.
"He wrote 'The Oscar'"

"Oh, yeah," Sinatra said, "well I've seen it and it's a piece of crap."

"That's strange," Ellison said, "because they haven't even released it yet."

"Well. I've seen it," Sinatra repeated, "and it's a piece of crap."

Now, Brad Dexter, (a big, broad-shouldered, two-hundred pound actor friend of Sinatra's), very anxious, very big opposite the small figure of Harlan Ellison, said, "Com'on kid, I don't want you in this room."

"Hey," Sinatra interrupted Dexter, "can't you see I'm talking to this guy?"

Dexter was confused..Then his whole attitude changed, and his voice went soft, and he said to Ellison, almost with a plea, "Why do you persist in tormenting me?"

The whole scene was becoming ridiculous, and it seemed that Sinatra was only half-serious, perhaps reacting out of sheer boredom, or inner despair; at any rate, after a few more exchanges, Ellison left the room.
By this time the word had gotten out to those on the dance floor about the Sinatra-Ellison exchange, and somebody went to look for the manager of the club.
But somebody else said that the manager had already heard about it - and had quickly gone out the door, hopped in his car and drove home.

So the assistant manager went into the poolroom.

"I don't want anybody in here without coats and ties," Sinatra snapped.

The assistant manager nodded, and walked back to his office."

More:
http://niemanstoryboard.org/stories/annotation-tuesday-gay-talese-and-frank-sinatra-has-a-cold/


Harlan Ellison's website: "Webderland"
http://harlanellison.com/home.htm

(At Ellison's website, click on "online works" to read selected short stories, essays and other writings)

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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
1. I love Harlan...the Glass Teat books are among my prize paperback treasures...
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 11:53 PM
Dec 2016

...as well as both Dangerous Vision anthologies...I've never had the honor of meeting him, but two of my friends have had the honor of being insulted by him...

politicat

(9,808 posts)
2. I love "Neither Your Jenny Nor Mine"
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 12:25 AM
Jan 2017

It's a difficult story, and it's got some aspects that are definitely products of their time... but there's so much empathy in it.

Other of his shorts can leave me cold, but that one is a treasure.

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
4. I remember when I first saw "A Boy and His Dog"
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 01:59 AM
Jan 2017

I had no idea who Ellison was but immediately became a fan.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
5. I have a funny Ellison story, funny to me anyways...
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jan 2017

One of my mentors was a friend, or maybe an acquaintance, of Ellison, I couldn't really figure it out. One day he invited me and my roommate out to dinner with Ellison. (My former roommate is now in the movie business, his dream job.) We had a great time. It was hilarious watching my mentor and Ellison competing to be the center of attention; they were both over-the-top personalities.

A couple of years later, when my wife and I were first dating, we were walking in Santa Monica and Ellison is walking towards us and he nods in recognition. I'm thinking, "Holy Crap! He remembers me!"

Then I notice my wife glaring at him for an instant, and looking away with an expression of utter contempt and revulsion. It completely shut him down.

We do not speak of Harlan Ellison in our house.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
10. My wife had met Ellison working. She's not somebody people forget.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 08:09 PM
Jan 2017

My wife likes optimistic science fiction. I'm the one drawn to the dark dystopian stuff.

A Boy and his Dog and similar stories just make my wife angry. She's never forgiven our oldest kid for making her sit through The Prestige. Her favorite movie this year was Zootopia.

I'd had girlfriends even darker than I am, maybe morbidly so. Normal people don't consider Eraserehead or Das Boot to be cheerful date movies, right? Normal girlfriends don't beat up pimps. Those relationships ended badly.

I wrote a science fiction novel in college that I've never shown to my wife. She'd hate it. Naturally, the protagonist is a woman with a violent past and the setting is dystopian, with the human race nearing extinction. I tried to get it accepted as part of my senior thesis, since I'd started it in a creative writing class, but the department chair said "no." (I have what's essentially a minor in English, although it's not called that.) Two English professors liked me, and encouraged me, but most of them did not and told me in various ways, sometimes rudely, that I should stick to biology.

There's never been any fluidity or grace to my own writing. My problem is that I don't care.

I have some favorite Ellison stories, but one highly relevant to religious skepticism is "Go Toward the Light."

hunter

(38,310 posts)
12. Partly explained above.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:17 PM
Jan 2017

Another detail:

As we were getting to know one another, I learned my wife had a Star Trek uniform with a blue tunic, shiny black boots, and pointy ears. I thought that was awesome. She also had a collection of fan fiction and slash, multiple generation Xeroxes traded at conventions, stuff that's still floating around the internet.

But that's not the story.

Harlan Ellison and my wife have radically opposed world-views. I was yet to learn just how much my wife hates cynical and dystopian fiction.

And I really was so shallow as to think Ellison might have remembered me.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
16. "I learned my wife had a Star Trek uniform with a blue tunic, shiny black boots, and pointy ears."
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jan 2017

Win.

lastlib

(23,208 posts)
7. I almost took TickTockMan for my DU handle.....
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jan 2017

"Repent, Harlequin!" said the TickTockMan......

GREAT Story!! (although incredibly weird....) Well-deserving the Hugo/Nebula awards!

Swede

(33,233 posts)
8. A quote from the little dude.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 04:22 PM
Jan 2017

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
― Harlan Ellison

sl8

(13,736 posts)
18. Have you seen "Dreams with Sharp Teeth", the Ellison documentary?
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 04:18 PM
Jan 2017

Docurama has it available for free, if you have one of the devices they support. I think you'd like it.

Along with many of his already mentioned works, I fondly remember reading "Jeffty is Five".

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
19. No, I haven't seen it..
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 04:55 PM
Jan 2017

It was up on You Tube...and still might be.

Amazon.com wants $17.24 for it (on DVD)

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