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red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:15 PM Jan 2017

Your favorite Grateful Dead song(s)?

Last edited Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:03 PM - Edit history (2)

My 8 favorites are:

- Truckin'
- Ripple
- U.S. Blues
- Good Lovin'
- Touch of Grey
- Uncle John's Band
- Friend of the Devil
- Operator (Ron "Pigpen" McKernan song)



(For link to Rolling Stone interview with Grateful Dead lyricist Robert Hunter, see Reply # 32)

"The Day the Grateful Dead's Ron 'Pigpen' McKernan Died"
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/ron-pigpen-mckernan-dies/

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Your favorite Grateful Dead song(s)? (Original Post) red dog 1 Jan 2017 OP
Depends on my mood HassleCat Jan 2017 #1
Here's mine Stargleamer Jan 2017 #2
Thanks for reminding me of Uncle John's Band & Touch of Grey red dog 1 Jan 2017 #7
Depends on my mind of the moment ghostsinthemachine Jan 2017 #3
Gosh that's hard hollowdweller Jan 2017 #4
#4 hollowdweller Jan 2017 #5
Hmmmm...depends on a lot of factors vi5 Jan 2017 #6
There have been a few really good Unbroken Chains over the years I've heard. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #24
Friend of the Devil. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2017 #8
Ripple, box of rain, uncle johns band nt d_r Jan 2017 #9
The Other One, Wharf Rat, Dark Star, Bird Song, Stella Blue, China Cat/Rider... Miles Archer Jan 2017 #10
Terrapin Station dawg Jan 2017 #11
I HAVE THAT SHIRT Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #25
Alabama Getaway pintobean Jan 2017 #12
Got to be China Cat Sunflower Ahpook Jan 2017 #13
Casey Jones Grassy Knoll Jan 2017 #14
Box of Rain... GReedDiamond Jan 2017 #15
Has to be a bootleg. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #16
She is the hottest jam artist going right now ghostsinthemachine Jan 2017 #18
I disagree. charlie miller's soundboards have spoiled me, i wont listen to anything else. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #22
I'll check him out. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2017 #23
Yeah, you should be able to search by miller or charlie miller. He's THE guy for soundboards. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #26
A few DFW Jan 2017 #17
Interesting! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #20
I like this cover version of Shakedown Street kwassa Jan 2017 #19
OH MY GOD ALL OF THEM except maybe "Picasso moon" Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #21
Estimated Prophet SHRED Jan 2017 #27
77/78 was a great era. hollowdweller Jan 2017 #36
Mine Botany Jan 2017 #28
In the Rolling Stone interview with Robert Hunter (see reply # 32), red dog 1 Jan 2017 #34
I actually meant this to be a reply to another DUer who mentioned how great the Dead's lyrics were red dog 1 Jan 2017 #35
Right now? NO CONTEST: "Ship of Fools" TygrBright Jan 2017 #29
not exactly answering the question, but one thing I love about the Dead's lyrics in general; Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #30
"Robert Hunter's lyrics say the right things in a few words, like 'dry your eyes on the wind.' red dog 1 Jan 2017 #32
yep. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #33
I always loved the 17 min Hunter song Eagle Mall hollowdweller Jan 2017 #37
Hell in a Bucket, Throwing Stones Dulcinea Jan 2017 #31
Scarlet begonias Jhall5 Feb 2017 #38
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
1. Depends on my mood
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:23 PM
Jan 2017

If I'm feeling raucous, something like Johnny B. Goode. For a more introspective moment, something like Dark Star.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
3. Depends on my mind of the moment
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jan 2017

Just like they were live, everynight one particular song would stick in your mind...

For the moment however, and keeping in mind my recent stage 4 cancer diagnosis, I've been loving

Black Peter
Ripple
Stella Blue (10-20_78 is the all timer)
Sugaree
Dark Star 10-31-91 right after Bill Graham died with Ken Kesey narration)


And for the idiot living in the People's House I am loving

Ship of Fools ("Don't lend a hand to raise no flag, atop no ship of Fools)
Throwin' Stones. (Ashes ashes, all fall down)

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
4. Gosh that's hard
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:39 PM
Jan 2017

I'd say

It Must Have Been The Roses
Uncle John's
Terrapin
Help Slipknot Franklins
That's It For The Other One

My favorite Terrapin I ever saw I think was Hampton 84

My favorite Uncle Johns might be my first show WVU Coliseum 4/10/83

I never saw many Help, Slipknots, maybe Deer Creek and Hampton the suprise show. March 92. They opened with it.

The favorite Other one was Merriweather 85 because it was the first time I ever heard them do the Cryptical part of it.

I never got to see them do the acoustic version, which i love but the best it must have been the roses was Freedom Hall 89 Louisville. Also a killer version of Ramble on Rose.

Speaking of that. This is just plain cool.


 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
6. Hmmmm...depends on a lot of factors
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 03:50 PM
Jan 2017

i love all versions studio and otherwise of Scarlet Begonias, Jack Straw, and Bertha.
Box of Rain and Unbroken chain are two of my favorite studio album songs but Phil just cannot sing well in a live setting and I've never heard really good live versions of either one.
Cassidy and Eyes of the World I love all live versions of but the studio versions are pretty underwhelming for me.

The only Dead songs I don't like in any context are the typical blues rock based ones. Promised Land, Alabama Getaway, US Blues, One More Saturday Night, that type of stuff. I also can't say I'm a fan of any of their covers except Dear Mr. Fantasy although I don't actively dislike them.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. There have been a few really good Unbroken Chains over the years I've heard.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jan 2017

The Warfield with Trey & Paige from Phish (and Steve Kimock) in 99 wasn't bad:



There's one I have on my ipod from the Furthur years-- I want to say 2013- that is just INSANELY good, but I can't remember the date & venue. But what Jeff Chimienti is doing is simply spectacular, clocks in at like 25 minutes or some shit.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. The Other One, Wharf Rat, Dark Star, Bird Song, Stella Blue, China Cat/Rider...
Sun Jan 29, 2017, 06:16 PM
Jan 2017

...Althea, Help/Slipknot/Franklin's, Jack Straw, Throwing Stones.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
16. Has to be a bootleg.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:00 AM
Jan 2017

Not in to much anything from the albums. Maybe from Deadset.

Then of course Dick's Pick's

Has to be audience recording. Everybody gets all excited about "soundboards" but I feel a lot (not all) soundboards take the edge off.

China/Rider

Help/Slip/Franklin's

Morning Dew (cover)

Deal

Bertha

Basically what I call "the big production numbers"

We always stream from archive on road trips. My partner gets mad when I pull over to pick a bootleg. He says "just tell me what show you want and I'll load it" and I say "I'll know it when I see it"

I just got turned on to this Holly Bowling. My partner likes this stuff around the house. Would be nice for brunch music.

https://m.






Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. I disagree. charlie miller's soundboards have spoiled me, i wont listen to anything else.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jan 2017

Hearing the crowd in the mix doesnt do that much for me.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
23. I'll check him out.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jan 2017

Will I find his recordings on archive if I search by name?

Obviously some are better than others. Sometimes I feel like some are over mixed - if that makes sense. It seems like a lot of the soundboards over represent the vocals.

Obviously recordings like One from the vault make you feel like you are there.

It's just when I'm looking for something to drive by, I search for audience tapes

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
26. Yeah, you should be able to search by miller or charlie miller. He's THE guy for soundboards.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jan 2017

You can also search for "walscoller" which is Walker-Scotton-Miller, Joanie Walker someone Scotton and Charlie, who were involved in the taping/transfer/or whatever but from what I've heard pretty much EVERYTHING with that pedigree sounds great.

(edited to add: I may be confusing etree with archive.org, you might not get anything on archive.org under walscoller: but charlie miller should come up)

DFW

(54,340 posts)
17. A few
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:30 AM
Jan 2017

Friend of the Devil
Truckin'
Dark Star
Cold Rain and Snow*
Their Candlestick Park cover of The Star Spangled Banner

*My band was one of the first in the Washington D.C. area to cover the Dead's version note for note as on their first album. We were freaked out to find that the Dead had all been on speed when they recorded it, and when they performed it live, it was at half speed. We kept our version the way it was, since we liked it better that way.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
20. Interesting!
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jan 2017

That's the reverse situation that happened with the Kinks.

I've been a huge Kinks fan since their early days ("You Really Got Me&quot , and I had most of their albums by the time I finally got to see them live at Winterland in San Francisco, (I think it was 1979)

From the moment the concert began, they played all their songs as if they were on speed.
They had to be on speed...Every single song they played seemed to be performed in 4/4 time, unlike the excellent, much slower, album versions of the same songs.

It was a huge disappointed to pay that much to see one of my all-time favorite bands, and then have to sit through the "Kinks on Speed" concert.

(I also saw the Dead at Winterland many times)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. OH MY GOD ALL OF THEM except maybe "Picasso moon"
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jan 2017

Seriously, it depends on the mood, context, version, etc

I'm partial to Terrapin Station these days because it has a very pacific northwest vibe. New Speedway Boogie is politically timely.

Box of Rain. Friend of the Devil. CRAZY FINGERS yes indeed

Some of the Weir-Barlow stuff has great lyrics, too. Throwin' Stones. I need a miracle.

Scarlet--->Fire, and as HBS said Help--->Slip--->Franks

Dark star, st. Stephen, caution do not stop on tracks...

Like I said, all of em.

Botany

(70,489 posts)
28. Mine
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 06:03 PM
Jan 2017

US Blues
Mississippi Half Step Toodeloo
Ripple
Dire Wolf
I want you that way
One more Saturday Night
Mama Tried
Sugar Magnolia
Friend of the Devil
Knocking on Heavens Door
Don't ease me in

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
34. In the Rolling Stone interview with Robert Hunter (see reply # 32),
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jan 2017

he was asked: "How about a favorite lyric or line you wrote?"

HUNTER;
"Let it be known there is a fountain that was not made by the hands of man." (From Ripple)

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
35. I actually meant this to be a reply to another DUer who mentioned how great the Dead's lyrics were
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jan 2017

(Reply # 32)

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
29. Right now? NO CONTEST: "Ship of Fools"
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 06:17 PM
Jan 2017


"But I would slave to learn the way,
to sink your Ship of Fools."

appreciatively,
Bright

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
30. not exactly answering the question, but one thing I love about the Dead's lyrics in general;
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jan 2017

is that thing where you can hear a line you've heard fifty bajillion times for 20 or 30 years, in a new context or with a different set of associations, and "aha!" grok a totally new and expanded or different meaning to it.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
32. "Robert Hunter's lyrics say the right things in a few words, like 'dry your eyes on the wind.'
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:54 PM
Jan 2017

His lyrics tell a story, and he can turn turn a phrase in ways that aren't obvious."
(Scott Devendorf of the "National&quot

"Robert Hunter on Grateful Dead's Early Days, Wild Tours, Sacred Songs"
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/robert-hunter-on-grateful-deads-early-days-wild-tours-sacred-songs-20150309

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
37. I always loved the 17 min Hunter song Eagle Mall
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:08 PM
Jan 2017

What a great wild bunch of lyrics.

The drunken battle in the desert, John Silver and the Wheel of Fear, just great.

#23 here:

https://archive.org/details/rh1980-02-06.84406.sbd.glassberg.flac16

Jhall5

(17 posts)
38. Scarlet begonias
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:24 PM
Feb 2017

'Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right'

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