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Related: Culture Forums, Support ForumsAPRIL IS HAVING HER BABY!!!!
She's in labor!! No kidding.
I've been losing sleep watching. It's happening right now.
http://www.aprilthegiraffe.com
redwitch
(14,941 posts)Thanks for letting us know.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)It has been a long vigil.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)blogslut
(37,982 posts)Hope all goes well. Watching now.
duncang
(1,907 posts)IronLionZion
(45,380 posts)Siwsan
(26,250 posts)I looked over at the computer screen just as someone was rushing around, tossing down more bedding. April was facing me so it wasn't until she turned that I saw IT IS HAPPENING!! Very cool! I'm having Mimosas, as soon as the little sweetheart is wobbling around.
procon
(15,805 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I'm so excited.
I just can't hide it
Imma 'bout lose control, but I think I like it!!!
Go April!!!
(Sorry...certain songs just kick up in my head)
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)But, of course, she decides to have it while I'm off to Zumba class, rather than at a time when I have been watching... Oh well. I hope they baby come out okay.
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Jack Hanna is petitioning to have the giraffe be Ohio's state animal. Baby giraffes are so cute.
CountAllVotes
(20,867 posts)Ohio has the weakest animal protection laws in the whole of the USA. It is sickening.
They don't deserve to have the giraffe as "their" animal.
Ohio deserves NOTHING until they shore up their animal protections laws and practices!
Ohio = puppy mill hell!
Bear Creek
(883 posts)Ohio leads in conservation efforts and re-population of endangered speices. Puppy mills have been pretty much shut down.
CountAllVotes
(20,867 posts)Did they shut down the dog auctions too?
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CountAllVotes
(20,867 posts)Coalition to Ban Ohio Dog Auctions
Coalition to Ban Ohio Dog Auctions is an Ohio citizen-driven, community based organization recognized as a §501(c)(4) by the Internal Revenue Service.
and ...
http://animallawcoalition.com/-gov-signs-ohio-breeder-bill/
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If these reprehensible if not criminal practices are no longer occurring well good. That means that the AKC is out of a few jobs now too!
They are all in it together if you had not yet figured it out as the AKC is nothing but a mob of greedy do-nothings.
Good luck with the next dog you buy in Ohio ... *cough*
llmart
(15,533 posts)Wow! Almost painful to watch.
blogslut
(37,982 posts)Finally!
ret5hd
(20,482 posts)He sure acts like it.
blogslut
(37,982 posts)His name is Oliver.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And have no role in raising the offspring.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)llmart
(15,533 posts)LOL - We mammals have lots in common, don't we?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:01 AM - Edit history (1)
Male giraffes abandon the female after conception and have nothing to do with the offspring.
csziggy
(34,131 posts)So they are bonded in a way that would not be normal in the wild. Behavior in captivity is completely different than that in natural habitats.
I know horses and in the wild there is a stallion that tries to control his band of mares. He does not participate in the births and has nothing to do with the upbringing of the foals but he does help protect the herd from predators and other stallions. The mares go off on their own to foal alone and bring their foals back to the herd when the foals are bonded to their mothers and are able to run - usually in just a day or two.
On the other hand, foalings in human controlled environments are different. Other horses are close around and they all get excited. I never let my stallion be close when foals were born, but other mares and geldings were often in neighboring pastures. They all got excited, similar to the way that Oliver is acting.
You want to see a grown horse get totally silly? Watch an older gelding not used to seeing baby horses see a foal for the first time. They get completely ga-ga over the babies! I used to have to warn my boarders whose geldings had not been at boarding farms to not try to ride in the field next to the foaling pasture. For the first few days, they would get no riding done, the geldings were so distracted they would sometimes trip over their own feet!
Gelding behavior is not seen in the wild since geldings are a human development, but even young stallions get silly over baby horses.While we kept the stallion away, sometimes we'd have yearling or two year old stallions on the farm and they got as enraptured by the new foals as the older geldings did.
I wish I had video taped some of those behaviors - they would be great on YouTube!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)On the Animal Adventure Park YouTube site, they write:
"Bulls (male giraffes) only really care about two things- fighting and the unmentionable....
Oliver may share space with April, but for short periods. Bulls take no part in rearing young."
They had to keep Oliver away from April during her pregnancy because he was so rough with her.
On their Facebook page, they wrote:
"He does not want to play house -- he wants to ROUGH house," the park wrote in a Facebook post Saturday morning. "That is natural behavior as males take no part in rearing their young, nor have a need for a female once she is pregnant. Sad but true."
csziggy
(34,131 posts)I don't know giraffe behavior in the wild, but I suspect once breeding season is over they either hang around the herd with the females - like horse stallions do - or in bachelor bands - like immature male horses do.
They still need company and in the environment at Animal Adventure Park, April is it. No, they will not let Oliver in with her, but he can still get excited about the event that happened this morning. He can still be interested in the new member of the herd. That is natural behavior.
As I said, I did not let my stallion in with my mares and foals. Years ago, during a breeding our stallion attacked one of our foals. The foal was in a paddock in front of the mare but separated from the breeding activity. The stallion decided he did not like the foal being that close and attacked, folding a steel gate in half in his effort to get to the colt. Fortunately I had a lead on the stallion and the foal had a half acre paddock to get away so the only casualty was the gate.
Even with that behavior, stallions and geldings as well as mares can get excited by a new foal. No - I would not put a stallion or a gelding out with my mares and foals. I also would not put an unbred mare or a mare without a foal in with my mares and foals. But when other members of the species see a baby there is an emotional reaction.
I bred horses for thirty years, owned mares and stallions, bred and raised my own stallions. I am very familiar with how male animals behave.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I appreciate your insights and will defer to your expertise.
I just get frustrated sometimes when people falsely ascribe human emotions to some animals, but not others.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)csziggy
(34,131 posts)Is more than I am willing to get into here.
I base my observations on horses that are descended from a species that has been domesticated for thousands of years - and that would probably have been hunted to extinction if not domesticated, as they were in North America long ago.
Herd animals will bond with their own species whether in the wild or in captivity.
3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...a long drop.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I watched the birth on the zoo's Facebook live video. The zookeeper said this was a "perfect drop".
3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...raising/nurturing of their offspring?
"He is a bull -- and a bull is a bull is a bull!" the zoo says.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)"OMG! What is going on in there??? Someone tell me - it's not like I can look through the door transom... oh, wait, I can!"
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And have nothing to do with raising the offspring.
Rhiannon12866
(204,779 posts)I don't know much about giraffes except they are very cool looking animals and the little ones are impossibly cute. Is the Dad interested in the baby or is he just bored because he's shut in there with nothing to do?
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)In the wild he would have abandoned her. He maybe curious on what's going on, but no interest in child rearing.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Once the front shoulders pass, the rest will follow quickly!!!
They should name the baby "Easter."
llmart
(15,533 posts)Maybe you should submit that?
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...Tax Deduction, and call him/her Taxi -
csziggy
(34,131 posts)If this is a girl, I think that would be a good name!
Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)stopwastingmymoney
(2,041 posts)3catwoman3
(23,949 posts)...his/her feet!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And chicken/turkey processing plants.
If people knew what went on there, maybe they would change their behavior.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Went from Toys R Us to Babies R Us.
Great advertising.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,041 posts)April says no it's time to eat baby
csziggy
(34,131 posts)She is still delivering the afterbirth. I don't know about giraffes but with horses, they usually do not nurse until the afterbirth is out. Until it has cleared the mother is still experiencing contractions and are not comfortable.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,041 posts)I have been present at the birth of horses several times, it's amazing how quick everyone is up and running around
csziggy
(34,131 posts)She tended to retain her placenta and would not let down her milk until the placenta cleared. More than once we had to have the vet out to give her drugs to get the placenta out quickly.
It's a nuisance!
And yes - if the foal is not standing within an hour there is a problem. We had two dummy foals - brain damaged and unable to stand or nurse - that we lost. And we had two premature foals with contracted tendons that could not stand without help. (The preemies both survived - one is still here at eighteen and has produced some spectacular foals.) But out of over thirty years of breeding, that is not a bad percentage of problem babies. Most of ours were vigorous - some tried to stand before they were completely out of their mamas!
stopwastingmymoney
(2,041 posts)Standing over my hubs in bed, licking him
Quite funny!
Donkees
(31,340 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,144 posts)Being born makes ya hungry!
Laffy Kat
(16,373 posts)I'm exhausted just looking at the size of her calf.