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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 08:41 AM Jun 2017

Phil Collins hospitalized after fall



(CNN)Singer Phil Collins has been hospitalized and postponed his tour after falling and hitting his head, according to a statement on his Facebook page Thursday.

The statement said Collins has trouble walking because of a back operation.

"He rose in the middle of the night to go to the toilet and slipped in his hotel room, hitting his head in the fall on a chair," the statement said.

Collins suffered a gash on his head that had to be closed with stitches.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/entertainment/phil-collins-fall-tour/index.html
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Phil Collins hospitalized after fall (Original Post) Miles Archer Jun 2017 OP
I heard he'd retired from inflicting his idea of music on humanity. KG Jun 2017 #1
He just started his "Not Dead Yet" tour (yes, that is the actual title) Miles Archer Jun 2017 #2
You did NOT! Wawannabe Jun 2017 #7
Glad that he didn't suffer a more serious injury Orrex Jun 2017 #3
I know a lot of people don't like Phil Collins NobodyHere Jun 2017 #4
I'll never get the Phil Collins hate. Codeine Jun 2017 #5
You kind of summed it up (but I don't hate him) Miles Archer Jun 2017 #6

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. He just started his "Not Dead Yet" tour (yes, that is the actual title)
Reply to KG (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

His son is drumming, because he no longer can.

The set lists I've seen have all of the Top 40 pap, including "Sussudio."

His career trajectory breaks my heart, because I saw him live at Winterland in San Francisco on the Genesis "Wind & Wuthering" tour, Steve Hackett's final go-around with the band. Collins was DEADLY.

Then I bought the first post-Hackett Genesis album, "And Then There Were Three," and like many Genesis fans, thought "What is THIS crap?"

For me, nothing can diminish what he did up to that point, but what followed...tragic is the only word.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
5. I'll never get the Phil Collins hate.
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 09:07 PM
Jun 2017

Sure, his 80s output was focus-group-tested radio-friendly junk-food pop of a grotesquely commercial sort, but a million other people were putting out the same crass bullshit alongside him and they're not the target of the sort of ire Collins attracts.

Even more unfair is that those people didn't have a body of truly great work behind them, they were just corporate rock hacks from Day 1! At least Collins was part of something massively important from a musical perspective. Early Genesis is sheer brilliance, notwithstanding the housewife pop that came later.

Phil Collins seems like a genuinely nice guy, very down to earth and decent. I don't understand it.

Why isn't somebody like, say Dave Grohl pilloried like this? Every bit of schlocky, massaged, hyper-commercial crap he's put out since Nirvana ended has been absolute shit-for-brains rubbish, but people don't treat him like they treat Phil Collins. The guy writes the Top 40 equivalent of cock-rock beer commercial jingles and nobody calls him out on it.

Mystifying. My sympathies go out to Mr. Collins -- just don't make me listen to "Sussudio" ever again, please.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
6. You kind of summed it up (but I don't hate him)
Thu Jun 8, 2017, 09:22 PM
Jun 2017

It's the yin and yang of seeing him at the end of "Supper's Ready," while Steve Hackett was still in Genesis, ascend to the drum riser and engage in a drum duet with Chester Thompson, that makes me want to yell until it hurts when I hear "Sussudio."

It's the same with Eric Clapton, to a degree. Here was the guy who breathed guitar fire in Cream, and his career descended bit by bit into commercial pop crap. He claimed he was giving the label what they wanted, said "OK, now I'm going to do the album I want," which was the hard, guitar-heavy, all-blues "From the Cradle." Then he went back to pop crap.

The reason why I have a negative reaction to the post-Hackett Genesis (plus Collins' solo work) is that I was so completely into the band right up until Hackett left. Peter Gabriel left Genesis and did a couple of albums that possibly could have been recorded with his old band. The he went WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out there. A couple of songs that got airplay here and there, but even songs that had a melody and got a lot of airplay like "Red Rain" were nothing like "Sussudio." How the hell do you hear a song like that and think "Oh, I HAVE TO record THIS!"



Also the same as the late and legendary John Wetton in Asia. The Fripp-Wetton-Bruford King Crimson was one dangerous band. And to hear Wetton sing something like "The Smile Has Left Your Eyes" was heartbreaking. This was the "Easy Money" guy, the "Starless And Bible Black" guy. He shouldn't be singing that stuff, but he did, and he probably made a hell of a lot more money than he did in King Crimson.

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