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Lots of hints for that happening in the show - and some in the books.
And Jaime will only be allowed to live by the grace of the remaining Starks. Even Tyrion knows Jaime owes them a death. Though Tyrion will want Jaime to live in the end. He still loves him, but we'll see. The books are one thing - the TV show another.
No one on the show wants a single Lannister left alive. In the books - meh. A few might. Doubtful. The fate of the family Lannister is found in the song they are so proud of - The Rains of Castamere. It comes home to bite them in the butt.
The Lannisters are nothing (on the show). They are over. Tyrion is the only part Lannister that matters. Part Lannister assuming he is the 3rd head of the dragon. His mother was also a Lannister by birth. Tywin married his cousin. But the Mad King could very well be Tyrion's actual father, and most likely is.
No head of the dragon has been raised by their rightful father. Not Dany. Not Jon. Not Tyrion. I think that's part of the theme. (from the books) Or mothers either - and that matters.
Jon is a Targaryen by blood - but by raising and conscience he is Eddard Stark's son - a man of the the North and the North frowns on incest that close.
Tyrion was raised by Tywin and he is his son - by raising, training, and expectations - but Tyrion is free from most of all that and in more ways than one. But the training remains - the tactician remains.
Dany had no real father figures. Just a series of men who used her for their own gain. With the exception of Drogo...and until Ser Barristan Selmy - and eventually Tyrion - she had no real positive father figures...or brothers who wanted to help without gain.
As Dany probably can't have kids - she makes for a bad regent. She shouldn't wear the crown - that's one of the decisions a leader has to make for the good of the realm - as Tyrion keeps reminding her. Sacrifice for the good of the realm. They'll need heirs and if she can't produce them, the result will be a broken dynasty with factions fighting for power. That means more war. Dany keeps saying she wants to end war.
Jon could marry her in name only - and still have a powerful Northern mate. Tyrion could marry his sister (Dany) in name only, and still have a mate from around Casterly Rock that offers an alliance...and heirs by Jon and Tyrion - BUT even then - as the Targaryen history (in the books) shows - you need one indisputable heir to keep the dynasty strong. They've fought and killed each other over that point and all because of the incest...and all the bastards..clamoring for power. A good ruler would prevent that from the onset.
Except, Jon isn't a bastard. He is the actual rightful Targaryen heir. It will prove out that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married. Otherwise, the King's Guard, especially Arthur Dayne, would have never been at the Tower of Joy protecting Lyanna and her child. Dayne would only remain behind from battle to protect the future King. That is the only reason he'd ever allow Rhaegar to ride out without him. Ser Arthur Dayne could not have done it any other way. On that much of his character, all agree. Even Eddard Stark.
I tend to talk GOT in terms of the books and not the show. The books matter over the show. To my thinking anyway.
Though that wasn't the case with my remark about Jon and Lady Mormont. I just really like her character on the show. On the show. The book is different, of course.
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