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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,406 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 04:38 PM Jul 2017

The 150 Worst Albums Made By Men

Don't blame me. I'm just the typist.

Hat tip, "The Stranger" slog: The Problem with Jezebel's '150 Worst Albums Made by Men' List

The 150 Worst Albums Made By Men

Julianne Escobedo Shepherd
Tuesday 6:25pm Filed to: MEN

NPR has compiled a list of what the outlet is calling the “150 Greatest Albums by Women,” as chosen by chief music critic Ann Powers and a cadre of other writers. The point of categorizing albums based on no criteria but gender, as explained by Powers, was to shift “the assumption that a male perspective can stand for all perspectives,” and to recenter women as a vital, dynamic part of the musical canon without reverting back to that perspective. Women are culturally trendy now, as you might have surmised from a glut of “Let’s Get Feministy” style merch in your native ad feed, but if you might remember when we were not—and those of us who’ve been through the “feminism is cool” cycle a few times can predict that there’s a decent chance the tide will turn back around.
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That said, here is our canon of dread! We didn’t really need to acknowledge that, for every 150 great albums by women that get made, there are at least twice as many terrible ones made by men, but as a thought exercise it was fun to think about the male albums that I, and my coworkers at Jezebel and the wider net at Gizmodo Media Group, think are the shittiest. We didn’t provide blurbs because that would have required listening to this awful discography yet again. They’re in no particular order apart from the top 10 or so, which deserve more disdain from me, personally, than most. You might find your favorite group on here, but don’t feel offended. Taste is always subjective, and it’s 2017; everything is bound to be utterly stupid from here on out.

{snip, but number 19 will leave you astonished!!!!1!!} *

* It's a reference to clickbait. I have no idea whether number 19 will leave you astonished or not.

Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band is number 104. Fire away.

Also, there's this:

The Problem with NPR's '150 Greatest Albums Made by Women' List

by Dave Segal • Thursday at 9:45 am

{The following post may be construed as mansplaining, but do know that I was spurred to write it after being prodded by a woman DJ/producer from Seattle. If you so wish, though, deduct points from this post due to my gender.}

NPR's list of "Turning the Tables: The 150 Greatest Albums Made by Women" has been generating much internet chatter and many arguments, and spurred a handful of counter lists. The Stranger has a history of nitpicking about such lists, and this new one spearheaded by highly respected veteran journalist Ann Powers has also triggered our reactionary impulses. Now, NPR's feature contains many worthy entries, but it seems like a missed opportunity to expose the public to more obscure and adventurous female musicians. NPR's list—composed by several respected music journalists and radio DJs—strikes me as an attempt at canon-building and a corrective toward many media outlets' diminishment/erasure of non-male cultural creativity. But my main problem with the feature is that it comes off as the 21st-century internet equivalent of the Rolling Stone Album Guides of the '70s and '80s. Essentially, it suffers from the same pervasive conservative groupthink as those tomes.
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The 150 Worst Albums Made By Men (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2017 OP
Some selections are surprising, but these aren't: Hoyt Jul 2017 #1
Some of the non-selections are especially surprising jmowreader Aug 2017 #20
Very true. LOL. I saw Joe Scarborough on Colbert (I think) a couple of week ago Hoyt Aug 2017 #21
Weird, some of them. Arcade Fire is led by a husband and wife team - with two women on strings. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #2
Some of the selections SCantiGOP Aug 2017 #23
The Sgt Pepper thing is just to be contrarian and "edgy" emulatorloo Jul 2017 #3
This!!! Beat me to it! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #5
Am I missing something? Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2017 #7
While I think the lists are cool... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #4
Yeah, don't take it seriously mvd Jul 2017 #17
I remember a DJ's saying that the only bad song the spooky3 Aug 2017 #26
Definitely a strange list zipplewrath Aug 2017 #29
There are only 2 kinds of music- good and the other kind. MiltonBrown Jul 2017 #6
I still listen to my fathers George Jones albums....and i'm an old Dead Head. Lochloosa Jul 2017 #8
They are all known artist WinstonSmith00 Jul 2017 #9
True. Kaleva Aug 2017 #25
I read the Women's list gratuitous Jul 2017 #10
Wanda Landowska. Before Glenn Gould. longship Jul 2017 #11
Are We going to see Wolf Frankula Jul 2017 #12
I'll take a slow flogging over listening to 'Fixing a Hole' or 'Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite' or MiltonBrown Jul 2017 #13
This is one of the 150 Worsts Lists of All Time Generic Brad Jul 2017 #14
And now here's something you're sure to enjoy: mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2017 #15
Whew! Talk about Reading Something Wrong! Leith Jul 2017 #16
The Jicks?... lame54 Jul 2017 #18
The 1975? Really???? Initech Jul 2017 #19
My Favorite Silliness on This List Is. . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #22
I like the way Jezebel has been trolling the media lately. blogslut Aug 2017 #24
What, no William Hung? spooky3 Aug 2017 #27
I don't think I have any of those albums except U2 MGKrebs Aug 2017 #28
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Some selections are surprising, but these aren't:
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 04:51 PM
Jul 2017

127. Pat Boone, the Greatest Story Ever Told
110. Gene Simmons, Gene Simmons
46. Ted Nugent, Cat Scratch Fever
11. Joe Scarborough Band, Mystified
5. Toby Keith, 35 MPH Town
1. Kid Rock, Rock N Roll Jesus

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
20. Some of the non-selections are especially surprising
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 05:32 PM
Aug 2017

How did Pat Boone's "The Greatest Story Ever Told" make this list, and Boone's "heavy metal" album did not?

How in HELL did Nugent's "Love Grenade" not make this list? The original one even had a Spinal Tap-inspired cover...you know, the unreleased Spinal Tap cover with a greased, naked woman on all fours with a dog collar around her neck...

Ace Frehley's solo album was the best of the four KISS solo albums. Which isn't saying much, but Gene's excuse for an album was a Trump-grade train wreck.

And come on: You simply cannot make a "worst albums" list without Milli Vanilli's "Girl You Know It's True" on it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. Very true. LOL. I saw Joe Scarborough on Colbert (I think) a couple of week ago
Tue Aug 1, 2017, 06:10 PM
Aug 2017

weeks ago. He was so proud to be able to play with his band. He said he wanted to be in a band since he was a teenager. He -- and to some extent his band -- were absolutely awful. I felt sorry for any musician that had to back that junk.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
2. Weird, some of them. Arcade Fire is led by a husband and wife team - with two women on strings.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jul 2017

And it is a superb album.

No accounting for taste, but this is a really odd inclusion (The Suburbs)

And The National "Boxer" is another superb album - my wife likes these two as much as I do.

Beatles Sgt Pepper?!?!

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
23. Some of the selections
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:02 PM
Aug 2017

I think are on there just to cause discussion. The Suburbs is one of my favorite albums of all time. And putting James Taylor in the top 20 is ridiculous.
Everyone has different tastes. My wife keeps a Best of the BeeGees CD in her car, while I would list all of their albums in the top 10 worst of all time.

emulatorloo

(44,117 posts)
3. The Sgt Pepper thing is just to be contrarian and "edgy"
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 05:01 PM
Jul 2017

Plenty of great songs on that album.


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"72. Robbie Williams, Swing When You’re Winning"

There's no such album

If yr gonna trash something, at least get the title right.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
7. Am I missing something?
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jul 2017
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_When_You're_Winning

ETA, I was working at a record store when it came out. Lead single was "Something Stupid" featuring Nicole Kidman. I remember the video on repeat for days.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
4. While I think the lists are cool...
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 05:05 PM
Jul 2017

"Sgt Pepper" being on any worst list is a joke and it reeks of trying to stir controversy...just my 2c

spooky3

(34,439 posts)
26. I remember a DJ's saying that the only bad song the
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:45 PM
Aug 2017

Beatles ever produced was "She's Leaving Home." I thing that's on Sgt. Pepper. Maybe it weighed the whole thing down, but for me, it couldn't possibly offset the creative other pieces on that album.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
29. Definitely a strange list
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 03:31 PM
Aug 2017

First of all Sgt Pepper by almost any musical historian would be listed in the "most influential" or something for its day. Furthermore, there are well known duds out there like Shatner's and Nemoy's that are virtually on everyone's "worst" list. Finally, something like James Taylor's Greatest Hits is foolish. They guy wrote some of the most iconic songs of his era and are still standards to this day. Okay, so you don't like "greatest hits" albums because they are a bit on the commercial side. But they serve a purpose and the commerciality of them doesn't automatically put them at the bottom of a list like this. Besides, if that is the standard, there are way worst "Greatest Hits" out there, including from people that never had any hits.

MiltonBrown

(322 posts)
6. There are only 2 kinds of music- good and the other kind.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jul 2017

Only the individual can determine that and often it depends on the mood.

Personally I'd have to be paid and paid handsomely to listen to Sgt Pepper in it's entirety but I also think Sugar Sugar by the Archies is a great song. Nobody's wrong when it comes to the music they like. Your ears don't lie to you.

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
8. I still listen to my fathers George Jones albums....and i'm an old Dead Head.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jul 2017

too each his own when it comes to music.

 

WinstonSmith00

(228 posts)
9. They are all known artist
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jul 2017

I would think the 150 worse album would be a bunch of unknowns and probably a lot of death metal....

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. I read the Women's list
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:30 PM
Jul 2017

Many I'd heard of, probably more I hadn't, but I was a little thrown as I leafed through the list what their criteria were for considering an album a women's album. You know, Blondie was on the list (Debbie Harry and four guys) as were the B-52s, which I thought was odd. But I had no problem with Gladys Knight and the Pips or Heart being on the list.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. Wanda Landowska. Before Glenn Gould.
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:38 PM
Jul 2017

I love Gould, but Landowska does Goldberg Variations better, plus on an authentic instrument.

Here: OOPSIE! Wrong!!!



Sorry! Here's the correct one:

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
12. Are We going to see
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:40 PM
Jul 2017

The 150 Worst Albums Made by Women?
And anybody who puts Sergeant Pepper on a worst albums list should be flogged slowly, from Cap Finisterre to Vladivostok.

Wolf

MiltonBrown

(322 posts)
13. I'll take a slow flogging over listening to 'Fixing a Hole' or 'Being for the Benefit of Mr Kite' or
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jul 2017

about half that record.

Music is very personal and what speaks to some doesn't necessarily speak to others.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
14. This is one of the 150 Worsts Lists of All Time
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 10:23 PM
Jul 2017

It all comes down to personal preference. There are at least 25 albums on this list that I own and really like. I have come across some really horrible albums in my life and none of them are represented here.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
16. Whew! Talk about Reading Something Wrong!
Fri Jul 28, 2017, 04:15 PM
Jul 2017

Did anyone else think that Billy Joel's The Stranger was on that list?

Well, it could be, for all I know. I read the first 10 or so, didn't know a single one, and stopped reading.

For the record, I love Billy Joel's albums (even The Nylon Curtain which can be just depressing).

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
22. My Favorite Silliness on This List Is. . .
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:41 AM
Aug 2017

. . .Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. Apparently they didn't get the point. Lou Reed made that album, on Columbia's Classical label in an effort to piss off the record company. The album is SUPPOSED to be horrible. And, since it actually got released, means that it shouldn't be on this list, because it was meant to be un-listenable and still got released.

Than in and of itself is an achievement.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
28. I don't think I have any of those albums except U2
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 02:24 PM
Aug 2017

U2, Songs of Innocence, which of course was automatically downloaded into my iTunes.
Probably the album I most regret paying for was Big Star. I just never got those guys, even though I generally like Alex Chilton.

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