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no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:23 AM Aug 2017

Illuminating Gas

I just discovered during my genealogical research that a relative killed herself by "illuminating gas" during a bout of postpartum depression in 1944.

What is it? Is it the equivalent of propane gas used in stoves & ovens today? Or is it used for lighting purposes like a chandelier?

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Illuminating Gas (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Aug 2017 OP
its not propane. drray23 Aug 2017 #1
Great article, published in 1868. hunter Aug 2017 #6
Gas used in gaslights. Girard442 Aug 2017 #2
Natural gas isn't toxic. hunter Aug 2017 #3
You're so right. Girard442 Aug 2017 #4
While not "toxic" per se, any gas can kill if it displaces oxygen in a confined space. Thor_MN Aug 2017 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author NightWatcher Aug 2017 #5
You are joking about someone's relative dying? Thor_MN Aug 2017 #9
Illuminating gas always contains carbon monoxide jmowreader Aug 2017 #7

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. its not propane.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:34 AM
Aug 2017

it is a mixture of hydrogen and various other hydrocarbons. They used to manufacture it out of bituminous coal. I found an article in the scientific describing the process.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/illuminating-gas-what-it-is-and-how/

hunter

(38,310 posts)
6. Great article, published in 1868.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 12:50 PM
Aug 2017

The solid and liquid waste from these gas plants was usually dumped into pits and ponds which are now considered extremely dangerous and difficult to clean up. The waste also contaminated rivers and lakes and coastal waters, leaving toxic layers of sediment that become a problem when disturbed by storms or by human activities such as dredging.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
2. Gas used in gaslights.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 08:35 AM
Aug 2017

Could have been natural gas or what was once called "water gas". Water gas was produced by passing steam over coke at high temperatures which produces a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
3. Natural gas isn't toxic.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 11:09 AM
Aug 2017

That's largely why it replaced gas manufactured from coal.

Suicides and accidental deaths caused by the carbon monoxide in manufactured gas were common.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
8. While not "toxic" per se, any gas can kill if it displaces oxygen in a confined space.
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:51 PM
Aug 2017

Nitrogen is about 80% of air, but if one pumps enough Nitrogen into a confined space to lower oxygen enough, people in that space will pass out and die. They won't even feel like they are suffocating, the carbon dioxide won't rise high enough to cause that feeling.

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jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
7. Illuminating gas always contains carbon monoxide
Fri Aug 11, 2017, 05:33 PM
Aug 2017

Many people committed suicide by turning the oven on and putting their head in it...which the fire department loved because they didn't use air packs then.

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