"Democrats vs. Socialists"

[Cheese Sandwich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251557965

Some interesting points were made

[djean111]

1. Actually, that OP was comparing what used to be American Democrats to Soviet Socialists.

The really good points are in refutation.
Just another sad Third Way hit job.

[TBF]

2. That is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while -

not sure why you've brought it in here? If this is the crap you believe in Cheese Sandwich, I have no idea why you are interested in our group. It is red-baiting of the first order and we see this nonsense all the time from the "third way" pretend democrats, but we don't need to have it thrown in our face here.


Point by point:

Opinion:

Socialists believe in government ownership of the means of production in large or in whole, and want equality of outcome.

Truth: Socialists believe in workers controlling the means of production.

Opinion:

Socialists think everyone, whether they work or not, willfully, or unwillfully, should get handouts.

Truth: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

Opinion:

Socialists, on the other hand, largely believe America is a "racist" "arrogant" "bully" nation that is forcing "globalization" on indigenous formerly-colonized oppressed peoples.

Truth: Yes, that one is true. And by "globablization" we mean that capitalists are out to make profit off whatever resources they can, wherever they can.

Opinion:

Socialists merely scream "jail the banksters," which doesn't accomplish anything rouse rabble

Truth: Capitalism is an inherently unequal system that oppresses many for the benefit of just a few.

[Cheese Sandwich]

3. I just linked to it to shine a light on it.

I thought people might be interested in a thread about socialism.

Personally I don't agree with that presentation.

[TBF]

4. I'm not interested at all in red-baiting

nonsense from the third way.

[Cheese Sandwich]

5. ok

sorry

I will try to post better things.