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Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:44 PM

5 Punk Rockers Explain Why the Alt-Right's 'Punk Movement' is Garbage...

By Michael Tedder
March 15, 2017

First, the alt-right stole Pepe the frog from cartoonist Matt Furie. Then, they stole enjoying milk from the calcium-deficient. Now, they’re trying to steal punk. Members of the alt-right have of late made the argument that “conservatism is the new punk” and that gadflies like Alex Jones and Milo Yiannopoulos are the modern day truth-telling equivalents of the Sex Pistols and the Clash, pushing back against social justice warriors and political correctness culture. In their eyes, their old, retrograde ideas—which inevitably manifest as fear and outrage at attempts to curb white male privilege—have suddenly become avant-garde because of…safe spaces or something.

As if.

Since it’s impossible to physically punch this loathsome idea in the face, Playboy reached out to some of our favorite young punks and some members of the old guard to talk about what punk really means. Many of our contributors pointed out that even though as a cultural movement it has always had its flaws and problems with representations, punk is still a place where people threatened by the right’s crusade can find strength, safety and community.



Alice Bag, who has actually done the work of being a punk rock star, recently said via Facebook: “Punk has been portrayed as music by and for angry white males, but in its inception, it was a rebellion against all rock cliches. Gender, ethnic, sexual and class taboos were all challenged by our early punk community and that is a story which is not very often told. People of color, queer folk, women—all were present from the very beginning of Punk.”

more at link:http://www.playboy.com/articles/punk-rockers-on-the-alt-right?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Keywee&utm_content=non-bunnies&kwp_0=365756

In the 70's Punk was defined as Leaderless, Lordless and Loud...doesn't jive with alt-right, at all.

I just simply find the conservatives..horrid, useless people...

Tikki

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Reply 5 Punk Rockers Explain Why the Alt-Right's 'Punk Movement' is Garbage... (Original post)
Tikki Apr 2017 OP
kydo Apr 2017 #1
Tikki Apr 2017 #2
kysrsoze Apr 2017 #3
Iggo Apr 2017 #6
ADX Apr 2017 #4
Tikki Apr 2017 #5
Koch Ebola Apr 2017 #7
Tikki Apr 2017 #8

Response to Tikki (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 04:08 PM

1. I remember when punk was starting. Remember Adam Ant?

Some how I think the only thing that really the racist/white/new punk and punk rock in general might have semi in common is anger. Other then that the two couldn't be further apart. Besides, what was punk in the 70's and 80's is now labeled alternative rock. I love alternative rock.

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Response to kydo (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:10 PM

2. Many newer bands still ID as Punk... As in synth Punk or tech Punk...

Alternative and Indie are certainly legit use for any band who is or wants that label.
There are just so much awesome new bands and singers out there now, but posuers are still
posuers and to co opt a real social movement makes them losers.

Tikki

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Response to Tikki (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 05:41 PM

3. Nazi punks fuck off!

N/T

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Response to kysrsoze (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 05:50 PM

6. "You'll be the first to go..."

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Response to Tikki (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:11 PM

4. Any discussion about punk music...

 

...that doesn't include bands like Black Flag, The Misfits, and especially Bad Brains, isn't a real discussion.

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Response to ADX (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 06:16 PM

5. Agreed....




Tikki

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Response to Tikki (Original post)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 12:22 PM

7. As a former member of a punk band I must say...

We were always the Ult.Left way back when it wasn't cool to be associated with the so-called left. This was during the Reagan era. Matter of fact our band was involved with an international organization called Rock Against racism. Back then we had our reactionary punks such as Skin Heads and Oi hardcore. Below is evidence of our songs. This was rebel music for rebels

[link:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvLIwTN57EwH_ntC-mnQ1wg/videos|

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Response to Koch Ebola (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 28, 2017, 01:51 PM

8. Even by 1980 the LA punk band scene still felt like inclusion was a priority...

Your band had a really great sound.


Tikki

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