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alfredo

(60,071 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 05:57 PM Jul 2014

Macro with a 135mm lens, and extension tubes.

With the Micro 4/3 2X crop, it acts as a 270mm. Lens is a Suntar 135mm 2.8 I found at eBay. I was enforcing a $20 limit at that time, so this lens was an incredible deal. It should make a good portrait lens on an APS-C sensor. Focus is smooth and precise, and nice clicks on the aperture ring. This same lens goes under various names.

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Macro with a 135mm lens, and extension tubes. (Original Post) alfredo Jul 2014 OP
Extension tubes increase the utility of long lenses Major Nikon Jul 2014 #1
Precisely. It gave me a lot more time to photograph insects. I like the bokeh of the lens alfredo Jul 2014 #2
They are all really pretty ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #3
Or a reverse ring. I use it as a hood for my 28mm. If I want to shoot alfredo Jul 2014 #8
I've read that the reverse rings work really well with the 50mm prime lens. ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #10
I use both a 28mm(56mm) and a 50mm(100). Sometimes with the 50, alfredo Jul 2014 #12
Great info - thanks. ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #4
Adorama and B&H are good places to start Major Nikon Jul 2014 #5
I misspoke... ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #7
I have that exact set Major Nikon Jul 2014 #6
I can't always afford what I want ohheckyeah Jul 2014 #9
I save all my coins, and the money I get from working the polls. That's $255 per election. The alfredo Jul 2014 #13
If all you are wanting to do is macro, you may want to just buy a macro lens Major Nikon Jul 2014 #14
Good advice. alfredo Jul 2014 #17
I love ex tubes. They give me some flexibility in the field. alfredo Jul 2014 #11
Very nice! burrowowl Jul 2014 #15
I used to use them on my Pentax Spotmatic back in the late sixties. alfredo Jul 2014 #16
I know nothing about cntrygrl Jul 2014 #18
Thank you. If you want to learn, this forum will help by alfredo Jul 2014 #19
Yes, I have been all over this forum and cntrygrl Jul 2014 #22
Three things help, a monopod, fast shutter and an eye level viewfinder. The viewfinder gives a third alfredo Jul 2014 #23
I'll be able to give it cntrygrl Jul 2014 #24
Have fun. alfredo Jul 2014 #25
nothing to see here, move along father founding Jul 2014 #20
An electron microscope might help. alfredo Jul 2014 #21

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
1. Extension tubes increase the utility of long lenses
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jul 2014

One issue with most long lenses is they inevitably don't focus very close. Adding extension to any lens decreases the minimum focusing distance. Adding extension to a long lens allows you more working distance and greater subject isolation than you'd get with a shorter lens.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
2. Precisely. It gave me a lot more time to photograph insects. I like the bokeh of the lens
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jul 2014

even without extension tubes. It's a low contrast lens, but sometimes that works with vegetation.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
3. They are all really pretty
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jul 2014

but the bee picture is superb.

I've never used extension tubes. I may have to check into that.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
8. Or a reverse ring. I use it as a hood for my 28mm. If I want to shoot
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:42 PM
Jul 2014

regular photos, I leave as is, but if I want to shoot macro I can just swap ends. The adaptor works as a hood to protect the back element.




I get no vignetting from the adaptors, but I use a micro 4/3 so YMMV.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
10. I've read that the reverse rings work really well with the 50mm prime lens.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jul 2014

Do you know if that is true?

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
12. I use both a 28mm(56mm) and a 50mm(100). Sometimes with the 50,
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jul 2014

The 50mm is usually a good all around lens anyway.

All these lenses are fully manual.


Here's what I use as Macro lenses:

Tokina EL 28mm 2.8 (my favorite)
Yashinon DX 50mm 1.7
Industar 50-2 50mm 3.5
And now the Suntar 135mm 2.8

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
4. Great info - thanks.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jul 2014

It looks like this is what I would need:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/375238-REG/Kenko_AEXTUBEDGN_Auto_Extension_Tube_Set.html


This video shows the difference in using the extension tubes with the 70-200 and 50 prime, both of which I have.

Well, I need to start a new camera equipment fund. LOL


Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. Adorama and B&H are good places to start
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:32 PM
Jul 2014

At least for most SLRs, tubes usually come in sets of 3 varying lengths, although you can buy them individually if you want a specific length.

In all cases they reduce the minimum focusing distance of your lens, at the expense of some of the available light. So they work best with lenses that have a large maximum aperture such as f/4 or better. Trying to use them with slower lenses is a bit more difficult because it makes focusing more challenging since the available light is reduced on a lens that doesn't have much to begin with.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
7. I misspoke...
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jul 2014

I have the 55 - 200 which is f/4 as is the 50mm prime lens so it should would with both.

The 18-55mm is F/3.5

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. I have that exact set
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:36 PM
Jul 2014

I highly recommend the Kenko tubes. You can find other sets that are cheaper and some of them may be good, but often the contacts will start to wear out and give you all sorts of problems. I've had my Kenko tubes for many years and they still work great.

A 50 prime is a good lens to experiment with tubes. It's not like having a true macro lens which has floating elements, but you will be able to focus very close.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
9. I can't always afford what I want
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jul 2014

but try to buy the best I can so I would rather get something you have tried and found to be good than save a few bucks on taking a crap shoot. I can have that in my fund in a reasonable period of time.

Each month my husband and I take a designated amount of money that we can spend as we please. It's not a great amount, but it can add up quickly if I'm frugal with other things. And let's face it, what's more important than camera equipment for us photo junkies? I don't buy a lot of clothes or jewelry or that kind of thing so I don't spent a lot. I hoard it for either camera or other electronic equipment...I'm rather nerdy that way.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
13. I save all my coins, and the money I get from working the polls. That's $255 per election. The
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jul 2014

primary bought an Olympus EPM2 body and some Sugru to enhance the grip.

The money I get from Nov and my coins will buy an Olympus 17mm 1.8 lens. They make good glass.




Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. If all you are wanting to do is macro, you may want to just buy a macro lens
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 09:14 PM
Jul 2014

For cheaper than a Kenko set, you can get this lens:

http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20641090.html

If you have a D3XXX or D5XXX series camera, this lens will not meter and it's a manual focus lens so it will not autofocus. Neither of these limitations are all that bad. Autofocus with macro is worthless anyway and metering can be accomplished by looking at your histogram and making necessary adjustments with the aperture ring and shutter setting in M mode.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
11. I love ex tubes. They give me some flexibility in the field.
Sun Jul 13, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jul 2014

For precise work, a good tripod and some focus rails will help you nail focus. If the sickness goes malignant, you will probably have to buy a flash ring and remote shutter.

I'm poor (retired), so available light has to be how I roll.

cntrygrl

(356 posts)
18. I know nothing about
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:26 AM
Jul 2014

what you explained in your written post. I'm lucky to get anything really good from my DSLR camera's. I do know, however, what is beautiful and thoroughly enjoy these pictures. Thank you.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
19. Thank you. If you want to learn, this forum will help by
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:26 AM
Jul 2014

exposing you to some excellent photographers. I have learned so much from them. They can teach you by example, and by giving advice, if asked.

You are welcomed to our group. Join in and have fun.

cntrygrl

(356 posts)
22. Yes, I have been all over this forum and
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 07:51 AM
Jul 2014

taking notes - literally. I'm hoping to learn a little more before we head up north to visit with family and friends. Since racking up more and more years under my belt I've become quite shaky which isn't good. I've searched and searched on DIY sites that have 'how to's' on making various homemade stabilizers. I was wondering if you use one. Mine is still being thought out and hopefully I'll have it done before hitting the roads for our trip.

I do intend on reading much more on the forum. Thank you,

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
23. Three things help, a monopod, fast shutter and an eye level viewfinder. The viewfinder gives a third
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jul 2014

contact point. You have that on your DSLR. Higher shutter speeds help.

 

father founding

(619 posts)
20. nothing to see here, move along
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jul 2014

if you looked into a teapublicans head with this lens combination, You still couldn't see anything.

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