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NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:26 PM Apr 2015

My grandfather's "selfie" (circa 1898)

Last edited Sun Aug 30, 2015, 11:05 PM - Edit history (1)

When I was about 8 years old, I'd often ask my granddad, "Tell me about the olden days." He would always answer, "Well, let's bring out the photo albums."

When I saw this photo, I remember saying, "Granddad! That's YOU in the mirror!" He laughed and said, "Well, I wanted to do some experiments."

Thank you, everybody, for talking about scanning old photos. My brother was able to do this for me.

Does anybody know what kind of camera this is?

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My grandfather's "selfie" (circa 1898) (Original Post) NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 OP
Neat! Solly Mack Apr 2015 #1
Yes. Thank you! NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #30
It's a field view camera Major Nikon Apr 2015 #2
Very cool! Whoa_Nelly Apr 2015 #3
That camera is technically known as... Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #4
Gramps was a mighty dapper guy. :) n/t jaysunb Apr 2015 #5
Even when he was much much older he was distinguished looking. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #31
KnR! sheshe2 Apr 2015 #6
What a great photo! NV Whino Apr 2015 #7
Quite the looker, your GrandDad. Dang, that collar looks uncomfortable, though... n/t TygrBright Apr 2015 #8
Ha! NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #29
Great ceiling light indivisibleman Apr 2015 #9
I noticed that, too! colorado_ufo Apr 2015 #10
It was probably "city gas" which was made from coal... hunter Apr 2015 #17
Fascinating details! colorado_ufo Apr 2015 #19
He lived his younger years in Brooklyn and NYC. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #28
I must say that I love this! colorado_ufo Apr 2015 #11
Thank you. He WAS intelligent and such a nice and fun Graddad to hang out with. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #27
great photo lovemydog Apr 2015 #12
Beats the old selfie where they trigger the shutter with a squeeze bulb.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #13
Wow! n/t NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #22
Very cool. SoapBox Apr 2015 #14
Great pic! Sherman A1 Apr 2015 #15
The resolution in the image is amazing. colorado_ufo Apr 2015 #20
That's such a nice thing to say--he was a very nice person. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #24
I have a bunch of other time machine photos I hope to post... NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #23
That is great. brer cat Apr 2015 #16
Yes, there are about 6 photo albums. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #25
That's wonderful. hunter Apr 2015 #18
Nice, but .... left-of-center2012 Apr 2015 #21
The actors on Downton Abby complained about the collars. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #26
Thank you everyone, for all the replies to this post. NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #32
Interesting. Do you know if grandpa moved onto to a kodak or other modern camera? midnight Apr 2015 #33
The photos started looking different when his only child NCarolinawoman Apr 2015 #34

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
2. It's a field view camera
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 11:59 PM
Apr 2015

It might be a Century or a Sanderson but the lens doesn't look quite right. There were a few manufacturers of field cameras back then. It looks to be 4x5 format, meaning the plates used were 4" by 5".

Believe it or not, they still make cameras like that one today.

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
4. That camera is technically known as...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:15 AM
Apr 2015

... A great big square old-fashioned camera with bellows. Or something like that. I had one of those back in the 1960's that my grandmother gave me. She called it a "viewing camera". I never actually used it. I preferred my black Bakelite Brownie Hawkeye.

indivisibleman

(482 posts)
9. Great ceiling light
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:18 AM
Apr 2015

a series of what looks like group photos on the back wall and a very nice still life behind him.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
10. I noticed that, too!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:28 AM
Apr 2015

I believe it is actually a type of lamp using natural gas, although I could be wrong.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
17. It was probably "city gas" which was made from coal...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:09 PM
Apr 2015

... and had the unfortunate property of being poisonous because it contained carbon monoxide.

Wealthier people in areas beyond the reach of city gas lines used acetylene gas made by dropping calcium carbide pellets into water. Some of these gas generators were automatic, mechanically complex, and very dangerous if not properly maintained. Ordinary folk used kerosene lamps.

"Natural gas" (mostly methane) and "bottled gas" (propane and butane) were considered great safety innovations.

The typical 3/8 inch threaded electrical lamp fittings used today were standardized in a time when electrical lighting was replacing gas lighting and the new electrical wiring was threaded through the disconnected gas pipes.

I love old family photos like this, and I collect too many old cameras.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
19. Fascinating details!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:53 PM
Apr 2015

I grew up in New Orleans, so all the gas lamps there were with natural gas, which was plentiful.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
28. He lived his younger years in Brooklyn and NYC.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:21 PM
Apr 2015

He took an interior of his home which had a big chandelier. We think by the early 1900's it might have been electrical. We call it the mystery photo. I will try to post this in my next group of "olden day" photos.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
11. I must say that I love this!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:30 AM
Apr 2015

So handsome and intelligent looking, and what a moment preserved in time. It reminds me of the words in the McCartney song: "When we were young, and our hearts were an open book . . . "

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
27. Thank you. He WAS intelligent and such a nice and fun Graddad to hang out with.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:14 PM
Apr 2015

He lived to be 92 and was pretty sharp until the last year.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
13. Beats the old selfie where they trigger the shutter with a squeeze bulb....
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:54 AM
Apr 2015

You would see the rubber tube going over to someone's hand.

Then there was the ultimate "selfie" I read about years ago where the guy had a camera set up on a tripod and next to it was a flash pan. It was the kind where a lit match would lower into the flash powder. The idea was to take the cover off of the lens in the dark of the basement and then back up a few steps and pull the string lowering the match into the flash powder.

Instead, the match flipped off it's rig and dropped into the can of flash powder.

The story ends with the description of a badly overexposed picture of a guy with his clothes blown to shreds.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
15. Great pic!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:20 AM
Apr 2015

The old ones are just like a time machine... I wonder what will happen to all the digital ones from today's world?

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
20. The resolution in the image is amazing.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:54 PM
Apr 2015

I could almost picture myself able to step through the frame and have a conversation! I think he would be excited to tell me all about his camera.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
24. That's such a nice thing to say--he was a very nice person.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:55 PM
Apr 2015

Wise, friendly, good natured--I imagine he would have loved talking to you.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
25. Yes, there are about 6 photo albums.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:07 PM
Apr 2015

Lots of scenes in "old" Brooklyn and NYC. Horses, big wheel bicycles, and Model T's mixed together. Family visiting Atlantic City dressed in extremely funny looking bathing suits.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
21. Nice, but ....
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:21 PM
Apr 2015

That shirt collar would have driven me nuts. I don't like anything around my neck. I suspect I was hung in a previous life.
(OK - no comments about me not being "hung" in this life)

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
26. The actors on Downton Abby complained about the collars.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015

I looked them up and apparently they are detachable.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
32. Thank you everyone, for all the replies to this post.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 10:00 PM
Apr 2015

I knew there would be some camera experts to help me out. As I mentioned, I hope to be posting a few more choice oldies in the near future.

I loved looking at these books with him, like some children want the same favorite storybook to be read over and over.

An interesting conversation I had with him about the transportation system in the city: I was looking at the pictures of horses and horse drawn trolleys mixed in with the very early automobiles and bicycles and I said, "I wish we still had horses instead of cars!" (Like many young girls, I loved LOVED horses ). His answer to me was, "You don't want that. As a boy I would sit in the trolley and cringe at the way they would whip those poor horses. It was cruel. It helped the horses when the automobile was invented." I never forgot that.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
34. The photos started looking different when his only child
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 12:24 AM
Apr 2015

(my dad) became a teenager. Dad was born in 1914.

I never asked him what happened to his old camera. He had a huge walk-in attic with lots of little rooms with trunks of neat stuff, but I was most interested in looking at my grandmother's old-fashioned clothing. Never occurred to me to ask him about the camera.

By the time his 5 grandchildren came along, he seemed to just sit back and enjoy all the photos my parents would take of us. Really was into his grandchildren--Because of him, I developed a great interest in gardening and learning about barometers- weather, insects, and most of all birds. My grandparents no longer lived in the city, by that time.

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