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Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:55 PM

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Reply More photos from the Pacific Air Show. (Original post)
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 2 OP
Enter stage left Oct 2 #1
Pobeka Oct 2 #2
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2 #3
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 2 #4
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2 #5
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 2 #9
Retired Engineer Bob Oct 2 #11
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2 #13
Retired Engineer Bob Oct 2 #22
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 3 #24
Retired Engineer Bob Oct 3 #28
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 3 #29
dflprincess Oct 2 #15
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2 #18
dflprincess Oct 2 #19
OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2 #21
dflprincess Oct 3 #27
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 3 #30
BadGimp Oct 2 #6
catchnrelease Oct 2 #7
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 2 #12
AndyS Oct 2 #8
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 2 #14
FuzzyRabbit Oct 3 #26
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 3 #31
calimary Oct 2 #10
Duppers Oct 2 #16
czarjak Oct 2 #17
czarjak Oct 2 #20
CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2 #23
3Hotdogs Oct 3 #25
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 3 #32
3Hotdogs Oct 3 #33
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 3 #34
WinstonSmith4740 Oct 3 #35
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 3 #36
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 3 #37
yonder Oct 4 #38
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 4 #39
CentralMass Oct 4 #40
Grumpy Old Guy Oct 4 #41
CentralMass Oct 4 #42

Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 09:58 PM

1. Wow, great shots!

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:09 PM

2. Great shots!

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:12 PM

3. A B-25! Nice shot!

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:40 PM

4. With open bomb bay doors.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:44 PM

5. I bet it was an awesome plane to fly. Lots of HP from the 2 engines, yet short take-off

and landings. Whatta beast.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:02 PM

9. That could be the reason

That Jimmy Doolittle chose it for his raid on Tokyo. His bombers had to launch from an aircraft carrier. Incidentally, they secretly trained for that mission at Los Alamitos Naval Air Station. The milirary aircraft staged at the same airfield for this air show.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:04 PM

11. Isn't that the plane that Doolittle used to bomb Tokyo in '42?

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Response to Retired Engineer Bob (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:08 PM

13. Yes it was....that sucker had to get off the flight deck loaded with bombs and extra fuel.

The pilots had to learn how to take off on about 400 ft of deck...with a headwind of course.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:57 PM

22. The wind across the deck was 75 mph on launch

That certainly helped with the 400’ distance problem.

The entire mission was gutsy. Two of the four carriers we had in the Pacific were sent within 500 or so miles of Japan to launch 16 bombers. Tactically it was insignificant, strategically very important. Imperial Japan had recently hit Pearl Harbor, taken over Hong Kong, Singapore, Dutch East Indies, and more with little opposition.

Strategically, hers what it accomplished:

Good news on the home front. Up ‘till then, all news regarding the war was bad.

Japan freaked out. Fighter squadrons needed for their conquests were sent back home, cooling their heels until ‘45, three years later.

Yamamoto insisted on wiping out the American aircraft fleet, setting up the Battle of Midway. Didn’t work out too well for Imperial Japan.

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Response to Retired Engineer Bob (Reply #22)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:02 AM

24. 75 mph across the deck? Doubtful. a 75 mph headwind would probably have scrubbed

the flights.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #24)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:25 AM

28. After more research, I'll reduce 75 mph to 50 mph

WW2 carriers could hit 20 - 25 mph easily. They always turned into the wind on launch. It was a mild storm, surface winds 25 - 30 mph. It helps to have a head start.

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Response to Retired Engineer Bob (Reply #28)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:35 AM

29. I believe that.

4-500 ft and airborne? You need serious wind-lift to keep you outta of the ocean. 25 knots and 25 mph headwinds would be needed to keep the B-25 airborne after launch.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:10 PM

15. My dad was part of the crew on a B25 in the Pacific Theater

345th Bomber group, 499th (Bats Outta Hell) Squadron.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:19 PM

18. My dad was in the engine room of a pocket carrier patrolling the western coast of So. America.

Our dad's did brave things in WW2, but they never remained there....at least my Dad didn't.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:30 PM

19. My dad never talked about it, not even to my mom

I did hear a few stories of baseball games and what Pacific islands were like but nothing serious. Those stories were usually sparked by an episode of "McHale's Navy" & some question I or my brother might ask.

He was only 44 when he died, maybe he would have told us more as he aged like some vets seemed to do.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #19)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:55 PM

21. My dad neither....never really told me about his experiences in WW2.

After he died, his best buddies relayed a story about how a Japanese sub fired 2 torpedo's that hit his carrier's hull, but failed to detonate. So, here I am today.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #21)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:20 AM

27. Similar story

A few years ago I connected with the daughter of the pilot of Dad's plane. I heard the story of when their plane crashed on a deserted patch of land. Fortunately they were found within a day or so & were fine except for some scrapes and bruises.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:47 AM

30. My uncle had two P.T. boats shot out from beneath him.

I know he probably spent some time in the water. He never talked about it.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:46 PM

6. Wonderful Photography!

Thanks...

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 10:59 PM

7. Awesome photos!!

Yesterday a women's art group I'm in had our monthly meeting at the home of our president, which is just a few miles inland in HB. OMG, all afternoon those guys were flying right over the house! A few times it sounded like they were going to scrape the roof off they were so low! But I love it and wished I could have run outside every time to see which one(s) were going over. Thanks for the photos!

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Response to catchnrelease (Reply #7)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:06 PM

12. I can imagine.

My head was throbbing from all the noise.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:00 PM

8. Well, I see you came back after takin' names!

I liked the f-84. Last of the straight winged jets. Back when form and function came together to make elegant shapes and sensuous lines.

Oh, and your photography is up to the task of presenting it in all it's glory. Thanks!

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Response to AndyS (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:08 PM

14. Thanks Andy.

I think I might actually have a closer shot of that same aircraft from two years ago.

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Response to AndyS (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:10 AM

26. Yes, amazingly good photos.

I worked in a photo lab for 8 or 9 years, back in the olden days when we used something called "film". I printed thousands of photos of air shows, but I can't remember any that were this good.

Also, the straight wing jet is a T-33, the trainer version of the F-80, the first American jet fighter. I got to ride in a T-33 one time and it was a blast. The pilot was a very quiet air force colonel who became a wild man after we got in the air. He gave me the most fun plane ride of my life. This was in 1965, and I can remember it like it was yesterday.

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Response to FuzzyRabbit (Reply #26)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:53 AM

31. Thanks for the kind words.

I'm a veteran of the film days too. In fact, I met my wife in her family's custom photolab. Now I'm continually amazed at what we can accomplish with digital photography. I miss the old days but I'm not going back.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:03 PM

10. Wow! Those are some terrific shots!

Thank you for sharing them with us!

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:14 PM

16. Wow! Excellent !

And consistently awesome, my friend!



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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:14 PM

17. Bucket Lists evolve all the time.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:38 PM

20. Bucket Lists evolve all the time.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sat Oct 2, 2021, 11:58 PM

23. Wow, my dear Grumpy!

Fabulous action shots! I'll bet it was noisy too.

Beautiful machines, strutting their stuff!

Thank you so much!

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 12:03 AM

25. What lens were you using?

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #25)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 01:00 AM

32. RF 100-500mm

I'm shooting with my dream setup right now, a Canon EOS R5 with RF 24-105, RF 100-500 and Samyang 14mm. These shots were all with the RF 100-500. It's incredibly sharp, lightweight, and weather sealed. The EOS R5 has 45mp, which can handle heavy cropping if necessary.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Reply #32)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:04 AM

33. Thanx

I went to Atlantic City air show with my iPhone. Got some good stuff. I left my Nikon d800 and Nikon 100-500 home as I thought it would be a waste of time, carrying heavy stuff over the sand.

I guess I was wrong

So, next year

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #33)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 10:22 AM

34. I normally don't take my gear to the beach.

I make an exception for this airshow. I cleaned everything when I got home.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 05:09 PM

35. I have NO idea as to what the ID's of these aircraft are.

But is the jet in the next to the last picture breaking the sound barrier?

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Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #35)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 07:31 PM

36. Yes and no. 😉

The phenomenom is known as a vapor cone, and it happens right around mach 1. There was no sonic boom, which would be illegal, so it was probably just a bit slower. The jets fly just above the surface of the ocean, and the shock waves knock the moisture off the aircraft. It happens in a fraction of a second, and if you blink you miss it. I was shooting at twelve frames per second and I just barely caught it.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Sun Oct 3, 2021, 07:34 PM

37. Thanks all for the kind words.

I'll try to post some more pics tonight.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 12:15 PM

38. I want to call the 3rd and 4th shots a T-33 trainer.

It looks a little newer/sleeker than I remember but I'm going with it till told different.

Anyone know for sure?

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:07 PM

40. Is that a B25 Mitchell ?

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #40)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 03:44 PM

41. Yes!

It made several passes, one with its bomb bay doors open.

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Response to Grumpy Old Guy (Reply #41)

Mon Oct 4, 2021, 05:37 PM

42. Nice. I got to climb inside of one in Salem Oregon (two years ago, i think)

My dad was a young Marine assigned to a Marine Air Squadron in the South Pacific that flew them during WWII. His squadron was VMB612 if I remember correctly.

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