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saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:55 AM Nov 2018

AZ Green Party cost Sinema 2.4 Percent of vote at polls.

Damn, this was disappointing news, especially in a race yet to be decided. According to the Arizona Republic, at least 500,000 mail in ballots are yet to be counted.

I mentioned before the election that I was concerned about youth enthusiasm. I was mistaken. My grandson and several of his friends either voted at the polls or dropped off ballots, straight Democratic tickets. Our young voters over performed as was covered by MSNBC.

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AZ Green Party cost Sinema 2.4 Percent of vote at polls. (Original Post) saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 OP
I think Angela Green probably saw this coming JonLP24 Nov 2018 #1
She waited until it was saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #3
It was too late by the time she did it JonLP24 Nov 2018 #5
Greens have no business running in Arizona except in Democratic party primaries ArizonaLib Nov 2018 #10
I think the Democratic Socialists approach is better JonLP24 Nov 2018 #11
Sinema herself was a Green, marybourg Nov 2018 #2
I know. She matured. saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #4
Well her past policies are why I supported her in a primary when she first ran for Congress JonLP24 Nov 2018 #6
She was my former Congresswoman. saidsimplesimon Nov 2018 #7
She was mine too and I was very dissapointed JonLP24 Nov 2018 #8
Sinema is winning maricopa and pima counties Mosby Nov 2018 #9

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
1. I think Angela Green probably saw this coming
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:04 AM
Nov 2018

Based on internal polling which is why she made that move.

Sinema was blowing her out a couple months ago.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
10. Greens have no business running in Arizona except in Democratic party primaries
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 01:21 PM
Nov 2018

Their policies are not republican, but they affect elections such as this one by helping republican candidates. Tea party candidates never ran separate from republicans, because they knew and republicans knew how it would help democrats. If greens want to be taken seriously, they should keep from blocking liberal candidates.

Seriously - Sinema was not liberal enough, so the republican was a better alternative?

I bet anyone going back and looking at all the liberal tickets they have split in the last 3 decades that they would find greens on non primary ballots have put more conservatives in office than liberals.

I am not for blocking anyone's freedom to run, etc., except that our system allows conservatives to benefit from voting splits so that when the conservatives get into office they can put into place policies with minority popularity.

As far as I am concerned, greens belong on democratic primary ballots - that's what changes party platforms - the tea party ran in primaries, and moved the republicans further right. The greens don't do that - in effect, they help get republicans elected. The system allows for it, but it also allows for the primary process to prevent this effect.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
11. I think the Democratic Socialists approach is better
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 08:26 PM
Nov 2018

They work within the party. If Greens were interested in progressive policy they should run candidates in Dem primaries.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
2. Sinema herself was a Green,
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:07 AM
Nov 2018

having worked for the election pf Ralph Nader
(I never mentioned this during the campaign.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. Well her past policies are why I supported her in a primary when she first ran for Congress
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:10 AM
Nov 2018

She voted to scale back Dodd Frank and votes with Trump 60% of the time. I don't think that helped as far as the Green Party is concerned.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
7. She was my former Congresswoman.
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:18 AM
Nov 2018

Unfortunately, Arizona is not yet ready to embrace more liberal ideas. Our day will come, hope it is in my lifetime.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
8. She was mine too and I was very dissapointed
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 09:24 AM
Nov 2018

Happier with Greg Stanton who won by 20%

They were calling her a far left liberal and she still won so I'm not so sure about that. I know a lot of Democrats are ghosts when it comes to issues like SB 1070 and still lose elections badly.

Mosby

(16,299 posts)
9. Sinema is winning maricopa and pima counties
Wed Nov 7, 2018, 10:31 AM
Nov 2018

But she's getting killed in yavapai, mohave, pinal and cochise counties.

She's down by about 16k votes, so maybe she can make it up with the mail in ballots.

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