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Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:57 AM

Tempe Police Asked To Leave Starbucks, Veterans Included

A tweet from the Tempe Officers Association regarding a request that a group of officers move or leave a Starbucks coffee shop on the Fourth of July because a customer felt uncomfortable has sparked public outrage.

According to the Association, the incident occurred at the Starbucks at Scottsdale Road and McKellips.

Reggie Borges, a spokesperson for Starbucks, told the Arizona Republic that the company has “reached out to the Tempe Police Department and Tempe Officers Association to better understand what happened and apologize. We want everyone in our stores to feel welcomed and the incident described is not indicative of what we want any of our customers to feel in our stores.”

A statement from the Tempe Officers Association on The July 4th incident and Starbucks’ treatment of police officers:

Read more: https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2019/07/05/tempe-police-asked-to-leave-starbucks-veterans-included/


Starbucks barista asked Tempe officers to leave establishment.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:04 AM

1. my old neighborhood, LOL

I don't do overpriced coffee so no idea what the place is like. back when I was a punk, Tempe cops were the "coolest," Mesa and Scottsdale the worst.

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Response to Kali (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 05:58 PM

4. Tempe cops were OK, but Mesa cops are still worst.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 05:38 PM

2. How can someone be so prejudice?

 

Wanting a person to be refused service at a coffee shop based entity on how they are dressed and look. It’s like something out of 1950’s Mississippi.

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 05:56 PM

3. Yes, because back in the day minorities used to scream and yell with ...

guns in hands at police, and shoot unarmed police down in the streets and get away with it with impunity.

Sorry but what you are offering is false equivalency as well as a fair sized ball of bushwa.

It really makes me wonder what your real "concern is".

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Response to marble falls (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 06:17 PM

5. I'm concerned about fairness...

 

Folks being denied a cup of coffee because of their chosen career is “bushwa”...

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 08:18 PM

7. I don't believe you for a second. The police are not a discriminated minority ...

What is your real concern?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 08:36 PM

8. So you're telling me that denial of service is..

 

fine and dandy as long as said refusal is to an individual
that does not meet your definition of a “discriminated minority”...

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 11:51 PM

9. No. I'm telling you there isn't a shop in this country that doesn't ...

have a sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" and as long as it is a refusal that can be demonstrated not to be enforced in a discriminatory manner there's nothing wrong with it.

The police have no history as a discriminated class in this nation, if anything absolutely the opposite as most establishments offer free coffee and donuts or the equal and discounts to police in uniform.

Don't you feel discriminated over that free coffe and sinkers you'll never get?

The refusal of service was about police violence that even the mayor of Phoenix has condemned as non professional and dangerous to those the police are here ostensibly protect. And this is why the owner of that shop used his right of refusal to eliminate the stress to his clientele caused by jump booted, armed, paramilitary uniformed police from his shop after the recent incidents in metro area.

I'm an old white straight male vet and even I get it.

Other than that ONE incident describe the discrimination you see towards cops.

Let me show show you the real discrimination shown to the undocumented, the LTGB, women, Poc, the homeless every single day. I don't feel for those cops, their lives are good and in twenty years they get to pension out and live a wonderful life. The young and mostly black males shot down in the streets unarmed and unresisting will not.

Until tensions ease there will be no service of police in my shop gratis or cash.

Now be honest: what is your real concern?

Added: Don't you have any sense at all that you are trivializing what discrimination really is?????

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Response to marble falls (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:14 AM

10. I think I was pretty clear what my concern is...

 

A group of police officers were not sold a cup of coffee and were asked to leave a Starbucks simply because another person was uneasy with the fact that they were police officers.

If you think I have a hidden concern, I can’t help you. I think my concerns were made clear. It’s almost as if you are suggesting I have a ugly ulterior motive. That is a baseless accusation that is insulting to me, in addition to being a violation of the forum rules.

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:53 AM

11. So you continue to trivialize what discrimination really is. I do not believe ...

a single thing you say because you will not respond directly to a question.

You have a tear in your eye because four cops were "discriminated against".

Not even you believe that.

What is your real concern?????

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Response to marble falls (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 10:36 AM

12. Look fella...

 

I told you what my concern was. You are the one trivializing and belittling my viewpoints. Saying “I have a tear in my eye”? That is an insulting and insensitive remark.

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 12:49 PM

13. It would an imposssibility to trivialize some small point you still haven't made ...

c'mon, what's your real concern?

What are you afraid of?

My apology for referring to the figurative tear in your eye. There was, however no belittling of your opinion, are you interfering with my free speech?

Help dumb old me understand your point by at least making the argument.

What is your real concern?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:46 PM

14. I don't think I could indicate any more clearly what my..

 

concern is, but here goes - Folks were singled out in a restaurant and embarrassed simply for the way they looked. How frequently this happens and to what degree police have or have not been subject to discrimination is of no relevance. All that matters is this incident. The law enforcement individuals had as much of a right to be there as anyone else. They can’t help that they have to wear boots, a uniform, and carry a pistol as part of their job. They should not have to leave simply because someone was uncomfortable. If someone else was uncomfortable, they should have just left themselves instead of causing a scene. That would have been the gentleman/proper thing to do.

Now if you think I have a concern other than that (and you clearly do since you’ve asked me five damn times) maybe you should just inform me what it is. I’m dying to know...

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 09:28 PM

15. Not getting their coffee may have been unfair but to consider it some sort of ...

prejudice is exaggerates what prejudice to a class of people is.

Do police get stopped in the streets for being police in the wrong part of town? Do banks red line loans to police as a class? Do police as a class face discrimination in employment or housing just because they're police? Do police get sentenced out of proportion to the general population for doing the same crimes? Do I really need to demonstrate this even farther?

For one day they lost out on a coffee and I bet they went somewhere else to get that coffee and all they "suffered" was ruffled feathers.

For at least the fourth time: my concern is you're trivializing what prejudice towards a class of people is really about.

Do you feel a victim of prejudice yourself? I'm trying to understand your over concern over something that literaly is about only a cup of coffee and a shop owner who exercised his right to refuse service to anybody on personal and not class grounds, the same right you and I have.

Why do you feel so hard for the cops and not even mention the PoC who were treated with prejudice by cops just in a weeks period before?

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Response to 1000Points (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 7, 2019, 07:03 PM

6. Municipal gang members make some people nervous. Colors, guns and such... nt

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