Question for CA Red Districts:

[BigmanPigman]

Are the residents who live in CA's red districts who are also experiencing dangerous weather conditions like drought and fires believing the GOP "hoax" theory of Climate Change? Are they sticking by the BS of the right or are their eyes and ears seeing and hearing reality?

[lapfog_1]

1. It doesn't come up much...

The Repuke incumbent doesn't talk about it... and they usually have very carefully controlled town halls... and the media doesn't bring it up (much).

So... I think everyone understands that the climate has changed and will change more... and they simply aren't willing to do anything about it.

[BigmanPigman]

2. By not doing anything about it, yet realizing that it is changing for the worst,

they are allowing it to continue. That makes them somewhat complicit (in my opinion). They do not get sympathy from me when it hurts them directly. If the GOP incumbents and the media actually did get with the program and Gov Brown in a non-partisan fashion to combat the changing weather, I wonder if the residents would finally act as well.

[Polly Hennessey]

3. To be honest

no one is saying much of anything. I live in the Foothills near Placerville. So far, the fires have not moved this way. We do get smoke from Yosemite. I think all who are in danger are not thinking of much else. My main concern are my pets. I have plans to take them to my Vet for boarding. If our worst nightmare should come to reality, the house can go. I would venture to say that most of those in the Redding area sit on the Red side of the aisle. Doubt anything short of the Second Coming would change their minds. I am doubtful about that, too (both the Second Coming and their minds).

[NBachers]

4. Will they betray their values enough to expect a socialized response to mitigate their danger?

[BigmanPigman]

5. That is what I would like to know!

How much will they have to be personally effected before they support action? Do the flames have to be burning their crops and their bedroom slippers before they act?

[Mr.Bill]

6. I'm sure they are blaming the fires on Muslim terrorists.

I'm not kidding.

[JayhawkSD]

7. They are not single issue voters.

They have a whole list of concerns and weigh the candidates on a spectrum of issues. The fact that I don't agree with them does not justify calling them names and insulting them. This is a democracy, in which all voters' decisions should be respected.

[Journeyman]

8. "Horrific Fires in Northern California Do Little to Change Attitudes on Climate Change" . . .

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/01/horrific-fires-in-northern-california-do-little-to-change-attitudes-on-climate-change/

Located 200 miles north of San Francisco . . . Redding and Shasta county are Trump country, where the Mouth That Roared won 65% of the vote in November, 2016. Asked if the fire was changing attitudes about climate change, The Guardian found the answer was, “Nah, not so much.” Here’s a sampling of the reactions from people living in the heart of the inferno.

Longtime Shasta county resident Ray Cutchen was dismissive of any link between the fire and human caused climate change. “I think it’s bull,” he said. “It’s just fire season. It’s hot. There’s more people living out further and further in the woods. I can remember as a kid in Red Bluff, it’d be over 100 for three weeks at a time. People are babying themselves right into the grave.” The fire “was an unfortunate event, but everything was just right for it to happen.”

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In other words, it’s all the fault of those damn liberals and their insistence on messing with the “free market” by cramming government regulations down the throats of the people. Is it any wonder Trump got two thirds of the votes in this area? “The county went 65% for Trump,” says David Ledger, a member of the Shasta Environmental Alliance. “The media here runs a lot of very conservative talk shows. The newspapers tend to have very conservative editorials. Almost all of them are skeptical of anthropogenic climate change.”

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A team from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication visited Redding in 2016. It found only 35% of residents believed that global warming would harm them personally, five percentage points lower than the national average and 12 points less than the average Californian.

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It is all part of the digital revolution. That which was supposed to set information free has instead created enclaves where even the wildest speculation gets passed off as “science.” The internet has made it possible for anyone with access to a server to become a “publisher,” whether it is Matt Drudge, Alex Jones, Breitbart, or the Union of Concerned Scientists. Is it any wonder that reactionaries have seized on this to bat away all climate studies as “fake science?”

"Surrounded by fire, California politicians question links to climate change"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/31/california-wildfire-climate-change-carr-fire

At a public meeting not far from the California town of Redding last year, the US congressman Doug LaMalfa said that he “didn’t buy” human-made climate change.

“I think there’s a lot of bad science behind what people are calling global warming,” he said on another occasion.

In recent days, the outskirts of Redding have been ravaged by the Carr wildfire, and scientists have directly connected the blaze, which has claimed six lives and dozens of properties, to climate change. Yet LaMalfa sounds unswayed.

“I’m not going to quibble here today about whether it’s man, or sunspot activity, or magma causing ice shelves to melt,” he told the Guardian on Tuesday, citing discredited alternative explanations for rising temperatures.

[BigmanPigman]

10. That's what I assumed.

If they don't care about how Climate Change is hurting others due to their own choice to believe BS and remain ignorant than I can have negative opinions about that mentality. They really don't care. Now, when a raging fire destroys their property and harms them physically, I am expected to care about them? Is that how it works? It being a complete hypocrite part of their mentality too? What if they got their wish and CA were divided into 3 states so the Red/GOP nuts could be in charge of their state finances, emergency equipment and staff for rescues, money to rebuild, infrastructure and planning to fight fires before they harm, equipment, etc. Without liberals like Gov Brown who is taking this seriously and has for his entire career they would be up a creek, a dried up creek with no water and fires coming over the horizon. When that happens will the liberals say, "Oh, we will help you since WE do care, even though you don't"?

[ROB-ROX]

9. LIVING WITH THE GOP VOTERS

I would say that most GOP voters do NOT think about much about normal things which is NORMAL for them. I think the greedy bastards just want to get through the day or their life without CARING. Sometimes it is like living with the LIVING DEAD. The coastal areas are nice and BLUE. The mountains and deserts are RED.........But us BLUE people are flooding the rural areas and one day it will be BLUE.......

[BigmanPigman]

11. Are Blue people flooding the rural areas?

That is one flood I would welcome with open arms.

[BigmanPigman]

13. Do they also want the state to be divided into 3 states?