Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:11 PM
lastlib (21,569 posts)
Poverty in Kansas
Some fear rules cast poor families adrift
from Kansas City Star, Sunday, Jan. 6, 2013 http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/05/3996591/poverty-in-kansas-some-fear-that.html --snip--
These days, the notion occupying many who advocate for Kansas’ poor is that less than three miles away, near the Capitol dome, government officials led by Gov. Sam Brownback are making “getting out,” rising out of poverty, all the more difficult. In private anonymity, fearing retribution from the state agencies that help fund their programs, those advocates use terms like “mean,” “heartless” and “vindictive” to describe the selective chipping away at policies designed to help the needy. --snip-- ---------------------------------------- Welcome to Kochtopia.
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lastlib | Jan 2013 | OP |
proud2BlibKansan | Jan 2013 | #1 | |
lastlib | Jan 2013 | #2 | |
proud2BlibKansan | Jan 2013 | #3 | |
pstokely | Jan 2013 | #7 | |
patrice | Jan 2013 | #4 | |
lastlib | Jan 2013 | #5 | |
patrice | Jan 2013 | #6 |
Response to lastlib (Original post)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:18 PM
proud2BlibKansan (96,793 posts)
1. Read the comments!!
OMG
Rewarding the poor for having more children is VERY, VERY expensive.
They have no problem coming to county hospitals, such as Truman, to receive free obstetric care. In return they should have to submit to sterility via tubal ligation or essure in exchange for their free care. None of the current entitlement systems are working to curb the exploding pregnancy rates of the poor. This system would be a definitive measure to reduce welfare spending and the amount of criminals on the streets (via poor, fatherless teens who have a 75% chance of ending up in the US penal system). |
Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #1)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:26 PM
lastlib (21,569 posts)
2. bet the same people are vehemently opposed....
...to low-cost contraceptive coverage via health insurance, or to the services of Planned Parenthood...
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Response to lastlib (Reply #2)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 04:40 PM
proud2BlibKansan (96,793 posts)
3. Why yes they are.
They made some really bad comments on an article just yesterday about Planned Parenthood.
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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #1)
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:55 PM
pstokely (10,431 posts)
7. They're probably "pro-life" and claim to be creationists
nt
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Response to lastlib (Original post)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:24 PM
patrice (47,992 posts)
4. God! That piece is such a litany of horror stories, I hardly know where to begin!
I guess my main point would be: If it's supposed to be about good jobs, as SUBSIDY-Sam Brownback says it is, then, when you force the price of a commodity toooo low, and in this case the commodity would be the labor of the poor who have been disqualified by bureaucrats (who obtain their own paychecks through a type of SOCIALISM for those who get political patronage in our state, NOT on their qualifications to do the work they are doing, i.e. it's all ideology), how in f-ing hell do Republicans think the job-market is going to bid any higher for that labor than what the current price is, which can apparently range from $0 - $280. @ mo.
WHY would whatever jobs that do materialize out of this EXPERIMENT pay more than the going rate for those bodies? They won't, because no one is going to pay more than the going rate. Those won't be good jobs not only because wages will be low but also because Medicaid is gone. Actually, I have an answer to this question of how Republicans think "decent" paying jobs will come out of this situation and it has to do with something else that is characteristic of the CHURCH-state in Kansas. People will get "decent" (ha!) wages depending upon their acceptance of certain other unstated, non-job-related, "qualifications", which happen ever so co-incidentally to be rather similar to those of the ideological social engineering bureaucrats who are doing this, ergo . . . Kansas has turned into a market for indentured servants.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/05/3996591/poverty-in-kansas-some-fear-that.html#storylink=cpy |
Response to patrice (Reply #4)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:47 PM
lastlib (21,569 posts)
5. Very well-stated!!
Exactly why I referred to Kansas as "Kochtopia". It's what the Koch brothers and their ilk want EVERY state to be like! Brownback--that disgusting POS that he is--thinks this should be a model for the nation!
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Response to lastlib (Reply #5)
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 06:58 PM
patrice (47,992 posts)
6. AND it's like that fiasco at KsDMV this last summer. UNQUALIFIED people cutting-corners
and producing, worse than the DMV in this case, catastrophe with people's LIVES.
That crap in the article about, TTE, "We're doing the poor a favor." BULLSHIT! I didn't even go into how what they are doing is exactly like kicking a "dog" because it can't sing opera, which makes monsters out of the you and the "dog" and makes singing of any type extinct. It's unconsciounable. Each of the family stories included in this article highly illustrates how very marginal functionality is in these demographics. Just because people keep praying doesn't mean that whatever happens is what SHOULD happen to them, nor, more importantly, that there will be no negative consequences from whatever happens even when whatever that turns out to be matches the Republican judgement about what is "right" or "good". You know what, it's just exactly like Republicans have no real idea of whatever an individual person's actual soul might be! |