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"A Fish with Cancer Raises Questions about Health of Susquehanna River", NPR, May 7, 2015 (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2015 OP
Troubles me A LOT! elleng May 2015 #1
My family has avid fishermen 4 generations at least, from the mid-Atlantic to FL & Caribbean. appalachiablue May 2015 #2
Yes, Silent Spring was the beginning of the environmental movement, I think. elleng May 2015 #3
Yesterday I wrote a long Post with many resources that I thought I sent to you, but appalachiablue May 2015 #5
There's much scary stuff around and you take what measures you can. Our regulatory agencies appalachiablue May 2015 #4

elleng

(130,861 posts)
1. Troubles me A LOT!
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:03 PM
May 2015

Patuxent flows in front of my door, trawlers often fish there for nearby restaurants. SHOULD we eat???

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
2. My family has avid fishermen 4 generations at least, from the mid-Atlantic to FL & Caribbean.
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:25 PM
May 2015

Bass, grouper, flounder, crabs were $5.00 a bushel when I was a kid on the Rappahannock River. I don't know anymore- it's all so polluted?! Once in a while having some fish and seafood is probably ok-

I understand that much of the fish we get commercially is from SE Asia, Vietnam now, who knows how that's handled.

Sorry to be a downer but this is serious- not only the fish, but the WATER that gets into our drinking water which they even bottle and SELL US for profit! And the soil and air.

Recommend Rachel Carson's beautiful "Silent Spring" book which pulls together the beauty and harmony of the earth's ecosystems for the average, interested reader.

On NPR last year I heard an interesting program about the Potomac and WDC water supplies. A couple of the experts, esp. the Riverkeepers kept stressing the presence of atrazine, endocrine disruptors and antibiotics and antiseptics (unnecessary marketing in shampoos, soaps, toothpaste, etc.) that the water systems are just not designed to treat well.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
3. Yes, Silent Spring was the beginning of the environmental movement, I think.
Sat May 16, 2015, 12:29 PM
May 2015

Nature is why I am where I am, an essential part of my daily life, so I'm very concerned about these serious problems, and I have 2 little grandsons, and more to come. Not optimistic at all.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
5. Yesterday I wrote a long Post with many resources that I thought I sent to you, but
Sun May 17, 2015, 11:18 AM
May 2015

just noticed in my rush I sent it to myself! *It's #4. here*.

I went into a lot; let me know if you need any clarification or aren't interested. Two years ago I took time to do a lot of reading, listening to experts and watching several excellent documentaries on our industrial food systems, chronic diseases influenced by toxins, and what we can try to do about it all. As a result, I made a number of significant changes in how I live that's made me feel better.

I share your warranted concern about innocent younger generations who will be left with and impacted the most by the enormous mess we have made. Very disturbing.


Note: On the poor fish found in the Susquehanna River in 2013, I posted another brief WaPo article about the issue here yesterday. Several commenters to the Post article stated that the year young fish were first noticed having sores and lesions there, 2005 was the year that FRACKING started in the area.

appalachiablue

(41,118 posts)
4. There's much scary stuff around and you take what measures you can. Our regulatory agencies
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:25 PM
May 2015

FDA, EPA, USDA only regulate 5 chemicals out of more than 80,000 in our environment! There's common sense info. out there, esp. for avoiding lots of plastics- utensils, slick paper plates, styrofoam esp. in the microwave where the chems really leach out b/c of heat. Microwave Popcorn is great, but the inside coating may be bad.

Also return to china/ceramic mixing bowls, metal & glass containers, wood items like cutting boards.

Avoid materials like non-stick cook pans, same for expensive commercial cleaners. Instead use safe, old remedies like ammonia, vinegar, salt, and plain milled soaps with few to no additives, dyes, etc.

For home WATER there are filter systems that are fairly good for eliminating some bad stuff- companies like Britta, etc.

*For personal care products look for clean, organic and natural as possible for lotions, shampoos, soaps, cosmetics. I buy simple French milled soap, personal adult and BABY products from *BURT'S BEES which are natural and in Drug Stores like CVS.

-Organic cosmetics from *JOHN MASTERS online or at the McLean Pharmacy.

-Whole Foods sells organic dish detergent and *laundry detergent for young ones. Maybe Trader Joe's.

As for food, I try to stick with Organic and WHOLE when possible (Pay Now or Pay the Doc Later), and things that are not in a package, box, can, or container if possible. Really not hard once you get the hang of it, and it adds to peace of mind!

Talk later, have a nice day-
I go onto a LOT!, don't know your needs, apologize for the deluge. I'm a former Information Coordinator.
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*VERY GOOD SOURCES IMO*: (Not found in the Corporate M$M including magazines).

http://www.burtsbees.com/Baby/baby,default,sc.html

http://saferchemicals.org/

http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/?gclid=CPD4h9TixsUCFc0YHwodmAkATQ

*Consumer focused, very well regarded
https://www.organicconsumers.org/

*Wonderful RODALE INSTITUTE in PA since 1950s, *A wealth of info. on healthy, natural living. My parents and grands ate organic! before big giant industrial farming, post WWII and all the new chemical usage in agriculture. Also they lived well before PLASTICS came into wide usage in the 1960s.

http://www.rodalenews.com/

*YES! Magazine. Terrific, newer Quarterly Print, and Online Magazine on sustainable, healthy living out of the Seattle area. Wonderful articles on living, eating, issues, politics and healthy life.
I love YES! Magazine, the attractive, readable, color Print version and give it as Gift subscriptions to people who aren't heavy internet users. It's very reasonably priced- much less than $20 per year I think for 4 issues.

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/how-to-eat-like-our-lives-depend-on-it

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