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Sun Oct 11, 2020, 07:26 AM

"Redneckery" Meet those 13 terrorist in Michigan.

Long article about those guys that were arrested.

https://www.freep.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2020/10/11/men-charged-michigan-kidnapping-plot-marked-troubled-pasts/5939254002/

On Friday, no one answered the door at the Plainwell home of Michael Null, where the yard was littered with five cars in various states of repair, a lawn mower, a riding lawn mower, the carcass of what appeared to be an engine, a couple of used appliances and other scrap.

Three empty bottles of Captain Morgan Black Spiced Rum sat on the steps to the house. A yellow "Donít Tread on Me" flag and a "Three Percenter" flag, which features three Roman numerals in the middle of a circle of 13 stars to represent the nationís original 13 colonies ó flapped in the wind.

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Reply "Redneckery" Meet those 13 terrorist in Michigan. (Original post)
safeinOhio Oct 11 OP
SWBTATTReg Oct 11 #1
OneBro Oct 11 #2
SWBTATTReg Oct 11 #3
sandensea Oct 13 #4

Response to safeinOhio (Original post)

Sun Oct 11, 2020, 08:23 AM

1. Seems like the story repeated all across rural America, in short when I read it (at the link above).

You get a bunch of guys, w/ literally too much time on their hands (IMHO), and they start BS'ing and/or drinking, playing with their guns etc. and before you know it, you got a toxic mess. Most people don't let these ridiculous fantasies get too embedded or don't entertain thoughts such as this, they either support a candidate actually running for office etc. or run themselves for offices. Somehow these idiots decided to kidnap someone. Idiots.

This article does point to a point that rural America doesn't hold a lot of high paying jobs, doesn't offer a bright future for a lot of people unless they already have something lined up (job-wise or career-wise that actually pays decently). I don't know if this is because some people are just too lazy to really work at it / go to school and get trained or educated in another field (probably both).

Most rural folks are good people, and sure, perhaps times are hard, and they may have to drive 50 miles one way to work and then another 50 miles back home (or maybe even more miles each way), and the majority of them don't cause any problems, but some do, and the neighbors usually know about them. This was the way it was when I owned a spot in the Country. All of us knew who the trouble makers were already (and the police did too by the way).

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 11, 2020, 09:23 AM

2. Generations of poverty and racism writ large.

So long as many in rural America are willing to believe right-wing hype (that all their woes are due to free-loading minorities and their Democratic enablers), rural will continue to elect people like Mitch McConnell whose very policies keep them poor and consistently at the bottom rungs for health care and education.

Racism has always cost society more than it pays, but some people will always see it as a valuable asset to be passed on to the next generation. Itís a vicious cycle, and the only winners are the Trumps, McConnells and Limbaughs of the world.

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Response to OneBro (Reply #2)

Sun Oct 11, 2020, 11:33 AM

3. Wise words. NT

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Response to safeinOhio (Original post)

Tue Oct 13, 2020, 12:48 PM

4. Definitely the kind of people the Bushes used to refer to as 'fodder' during their wars

I bet these lumpkins are big fans of said wars too.

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