Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

TexasTowelie

(112,121 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 02:56 AM Oct 2018

'Look at this f---ing white guy!' bigot yells before brutally attacking man in Bronx pizzeria

A bigoted attacker screamed anti-white statements at a man sitting in a Bronx pizzeria, then punched him in the face and fractured his eye socket, cops said Wednesday.

The 59-year-old victim was sitting at a table in Ray’s Pizza on E. 138th St. at St. Ann’s Ave. in Mott Haven Oct. 6, using his laptop, when another man stormed in and started yelling, police said.

“Look at this f---ing white guy! These f---ing white people think they own the world!” the man bellowed. The victim tried to leave, but the man blocked his path, then punched him in the face, hitting him hard enough to fracture his eye socket and tear his retina, cops said.

The victim, Chris Bilcik, told NBC 4 he’s lived in the neighborhood for 18 years.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-metro-anti-white-attack-bronx-pizzeria-20181018-story.html

11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
'Look at this f---ing white guy!' bigot yells before brutally attacking man in Bronx pizzeria (Original Post) TexasTowelie Oct 2018 OP
Fox will be all over this... HopeAgain Oct 2018 #1
It's a hate crime. It's still against the law to attack someone even if they are white ... right? Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #2
It is a crime, HopeAgain Oct 2018 #3
It is a hate crime Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #4
So go watch Fox and become another scared white person HopeAgain Oct 2018 #5
I believe crimes of hate should be called that regardless of what color attack what color Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #6
Hate crimes carry special significance HopeAgain Oct 2018 #7
Im on this site cause im a democrat but i dont like double standards or hypocrisy Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #8
Distinction is not necessarily hypocrisy HopeAgain Oct 2018 #9
The rational behind hate crimes is that the attacker isnt attacking Fullduplexxx Oct 2018 #10
I'm not sure, in the case of a minority offender HopeAgain Oct 2018 #11

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. So go watch Fox and become another scared white person
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:00 AM
Oct 2018

But its not a bigger problem, like I said. Lots of people commit acts of violence but it`s not systemic and widespread like minorities and GLBTQ experience.

Fullduplexxx

(7,857 posts)
6. I believe crimes of hate should be called that regardless of what color attack what color
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:08 AM
Oct 2018

Frequency being irrelevant

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
7. Hate crimes carry special significance
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 10:24 AM
Oct 2018

because they are acts of violence or vandalism designed to cause fear and to intimidate minorities in order to prevent them from demanding equal treatment or to prevent them from being part of society. Yes, this is a crime motivated by hate, but my point is that Fox will use it to try reinforce its viewer's beliefs in white victim-hood.

If You don't understand that, I am surprised you are on this site.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
9. Distinction is not necessarily hypocrisy
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:35 AM
Oct 2018

How many whites have been publicly lynched by black mobs? This man should be punished, but Fox News uses incidents like this for whataboutism to defend Trump's "many fine people." I think this guy is crazy and full of hate, but it doesn't present the same threat to society as does the Proud Boys or KKK. White people aren't being kept down under the boot of African American intimidation and violence. it's the other way around.

By your reasoning Affirmative Action is bad discrimination.

Fullduplexxx

(7,857 posts)
10. The rational behind hate crimes is that the attacker isnt attacking
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 11:56 AM
Oct 2018

The victim for a specific reason like a robbery where the assailant targets a person at an atm in an attempt to get cash but the assailant has a problem with a group in general .
A White guy who assaults an african american person because he is an african american is more of a danger because of his propensity to harm people of color. It makes him a greater danger to society in general qnd therefore is deserving of special punishment .
I see no difference between the aforementioned white guy here and the african american who is assaulting a white guy just necause he IS white.
I understand that white groups have cause more harm to african americans but frequency isnt the deciding factor (or at least shoudnt be) what should matter more is the danger to people in general and this is why in this case i believe that this is a hate crime. He didnt have a problem with this one white guy he had a problem with all white people and decided to assault one .

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
11. I'm not sure, in the case of a minority offender
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 12:09 PM
Oct 2018

that a crime motivated by hate is much worse than a crime motivated by anything else. If it rose to the level of insurrection, maybe that would be different.

The added societal problem of minority oppression makes all the difference in the world to me. Why? Because it can strongly affect the whole of society rather than just the single victim and single offender.

Latest Discussions»Region Forums»New York»'Look at this f---ing whi...