Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:27 AM
irisblue (24,849 posts)
Kasich speaking at the convention? I got ALOT of uncomfortableness
What are you DUers thinking on this?
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18 replies, 1344 views
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irisblue | Jul 2020 | OP |
old guy | Jul 2020 | #1 | |
50 Shades Of Blue | Jul 2020 | #2 | |
CrispyQ | Jul 2020 | #3 | |
irisblue | Jul 2020 | #15 | |
still_one | Jul 2020 | #4 | |
calguy | Jul 2020 | #5 | |
Freethinker65 | Jul 2020 | #6 | |
kimbutgar | Jul 2020 | #7 | |
KPN | Jul 2020 | #8 | |
CrispyQ | Jul 2020 | #11 | |
Bev54 | Jul 2020 | #9 | |
irisblue | Jul 2020 | #14 | |
Siwsan | Jul 2020 | #10 | |
irisblue | Jul 2020 | #12 | |
crimycarny | Jul 2020 | #13 | |
Hestia | Jul 2020 | #17 | |
crimycarny | Jul 2020 | #18 | |
Bluethroughu | Jul 2020 | #16 |
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:31 AM
50 Shades Of Blue (5,911 posts)
2. I don't like it. Kasich is a rightwing Republican. He has no fucking business there.
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:34 AM
CrispyQ (29,170 posts)
3. Boo. Hiss.
![]() ![]() We are going to put an anti-choice, retired republican on our national stage, during our convention? We have several young, energetic Democrats who deserve that space/time more than Kasich. |
Response to CrispyQ (Reply #3)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:16 PM
irisblue (24,849 posts)
15. I think Kasich will run in 24.
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:36 AM
still_one (76,181 posts)
4. I understand the strategy behind it, but I just don't think having Kasich speak at the Democratic
Convention is the best way to get republicans to vote for Biden
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Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:37 AM
calguy (2,930 posts)
5. Anything that helps defeat Trump is fine by me
We all have a common enemy right now and we all need to join forces to defeat trump. We have seen over the past week how low trump is willing to go, and we still have 4 months to go. I personally welcome every and all republicans who join us to defeat trump. We'll then have 4 years in control to push our ideas and agenda.
At the end of those four years we'll once again be battling Kasich and the Lincoln Project folks in the arena of ideologies. That's the way our country is. We battle each other every four years. Sometimes we win, sometimes they win. If trump manages to stay in power, we just might never have a fair election again, ever. So I welcome all republicans who see the evil of trump and are willing to join us in defeating him. |
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:38 AM
Freethinker65 (7,222 posts)
6. As long as he isn't made Veep, fine.
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:42 AM
kimbutgar (14,804 posts)
7. I don't think so
Democrats should be the only ones speaking at the convention.
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Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:46 AM
KPN (11,616 posts)
8. I definitely don't like it. I understand the strategy, but to be honest, I distrust what may
follow after-the-fact. In simple terms, our tent isn't and should not be that big. I'm sure many here will disagree, but bi-partisanship is what brought us to the edge of the age of tRump. I don't see how it can reverse the trends that helped bring us to that edge.
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Response to KPN (Reply #8)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:04 PM
CrispyQ (29,170 posts)
11. Totally agree.
Seems like we've tried this strategy before—reaching across the aisle. It only works with retired repubs. The ones active in Congress will tell our side to fuck the fuck off. They will obstruct Biden every bit as much as they obstructed Obama. We need congressional majorities enough that we don't need to work with the other side. And if we get them, we need to go BOLD and seriously fix some shit that has needed fixing for a long time. OR WE WILL BE BACK HERE AGAIN, GUARANTEED.
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Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:53 AM
Bev54 (2,420 posts)
9. Bad on so many levels
Are they trying to piss people off??
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Response to Bev54 (Reply #9)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:15 PM
irisblue (24,849 posts)
14. Kasich is still popular in the "Ruby Necklaces" around Columbus
His old CD, the Ohio12th, which is maroon now IMO, the suburbs around Dayton, Cincy, Cleveland and some of those last time Trump voters in Youngstown & NE Ohio.
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Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:55 AM
Siwsan (17,496 posts)
10. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend' is what comes to mind.
If he persuades some old school conservatives who are uncomfortable with trump* to cross over on the ticket and vote for Joe, then fine. But he is not to be mistaken for an ally.
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Response to Siwsan (Reply #10)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:10 PM
irisblue (24,849 posts)
12. The Lincoln Project. Temp allies
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:11 PM
crimycarny (827 posts)
13. It'll be fine
Our nation is exhausted from the CONSTANT division. Any hope for a return to some sort of civility will be grasped onto like a lifeboat. Don’t over think this. The Biden campaign is pretty savvy and I’m sure Obama is giving his feedback on this sort of thing as well.
I know Dems tend to be a neurotic bunch (at least I know I am), but my advice is to avoid getting pulled into constant “what if”-s as that only drains critical energy we’re going to need to win this battle. |
Response to crimycarny (Reply #13)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:47 PM
Hestia (3,338 posts)
17. And Kasich is part of the group that brought us said Constant Division. PBO reached across
the aisle time after time and it taught everyone in the US is bipartisanship = capitulation to Party of Putin. We bring goodwill and hold our hands out in friendship, we get spat upon and called commies, socialists and whatever the keyword of the day is. We've been here before and lost, big, on all fronts and look at what it has brought us.
No, just no. It's actions like this that turn off good would be Democrats. |
Response to Hestia (Reply #17)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:52 AM
crimycarny (827 posts)
18. I'll concentrate on getting out the vote
Not hand wringing about something I have little control over.
Besides, Americans seem to have the attention span of a gnat so will it really matter anyway? I just don’t buy into the “everyone else is our enemy” BS. I’m a solid Dem and I hope we get a super majority in 2020. That being said I don’t believe in one party having a long term domination of power. Power corrupts. So I’d prefer to have the GOP become more moderate—shades of Eisenhower— and for true decency and compromise to enter our politics again. |
Response to irisblue (Original post)
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:56 PM
Bluethroughu (980 posts)
16. I'm thinking this is a Republicon takeover of the
Democratic party. He is part of the problem, not part of the solution! He helped ruin his party with their right wing no compromise politics, if the Democratic party allows him on their stage, they've allowed the Democratic party the false equivalency and one party system narrative.
Don't do it! Don't sink to their level, if they don't like their party then fix it now, not through ours. |