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TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 05:39 AM Dec 2019

Methodist conference sues SMU over university's steps to redefine its relationship with the church

The United Methodist Church’s South Central Jurisdictional Conference last week filed a lawsuit against Southern Methodist University to prevent the university from reconfiguring its relationship with the church.

At stake is whether the university is controlled by the South Central Jurisdictional Conference or by the university’s own board of trustees.

The dispute is related to division within the United Methodist Church over the church’s stance on LGBTQ inclusion.

Delegates at a conference in February voted in favor of a proposal called the Traditional Plan, which strengthened bans on LGBTQ-affirming practices within the church. The proposal widened a rift within the church's progressive and conservative members. The controversy has raised the possibility that the church will split into different denominations.

Read more: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/faith/2019/12/08/methodist-conference-sues-smu-over-universitys-steps-to-redefine-its-relationship-with-the-church/

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Methodist conference sues SMU over university's steps to redefine its relationship with the church (Original Post) TexasTowelie Dec 2019 OP
I often do not agree with Gerald Turner ... DuckBurp Dec 2019 #1
I graduated from the other Methodist university in Texas (Southwestern) TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #2
I think what's going on at SMU is that they anticipate a schism in the United Methodist Church DuckBurp Dec 2019 #3
I'm definitely not an expert regarding the politics within the United Methodist church TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #4
I have seen nothing indicating that SMU would change its name. DuckBurp Dec 2019 #5
Will do. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #6

DuckBurp

(302 posts)
1. I often do not agree with Gerald Turner ...
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 12:01 PM
Dec 2019

... but, as a Methodist and SMU alum, I think this is a good strategic move.

TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
2. I graduated from the other Methodist university in Texas (Southwestern)
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 01:30 PM
Dec 2019

and about 20 years ago there was some issue occurring with the faculty that made us notice that Southwestern was more liberal and there is more interaction among the students, the faculty, and the administration. It's sad to see that the administration is having philosophical differences with the Methodist conference, but I hope they can get the issues resolved.

It's also nice to know that my OP was relevant to another DU member.

DuckBurp

(302 posts)
3. I think what's going on at SMU is that they anticipate a schism in the United Methodist Church
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:28 AM
Dec 2019

With the conservatives going one way and the liberals the other. In order to keep from being associated with either of those entities, SMU is seeking to be independent, non-affiliated with either. I'm not sure of how it happened, but I believe other institutions of higher learning (e.g., Duke, Vanderbilt) were once Methodist-owned, but are no longer. I think SMU is following their lead.

TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
4. I'm definitely not an expert regarding the politics within the United Methodist church
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 01:46 AM
Dec 2019

(my brain can only absorb a limited amount of information), but I suspect that you are correct.

About 15 years ago, Southwestern surveyed the students and alumni as to whether to change the name because it was considered to be a "regional" name and they have changed from being a regional liberal arts university to a national liberal arts university, and of course there was the confusion with Southwest Texas State in San Marcos. The survey showed overwhelming disapproval--we are proud of the name "Southwestern" that was adopted when the charters from four predecessor universities (Rutersville College, McKenzie College, Wesleyan University and Soule University) were combined in 1870. Southwestern is also considered the oldest university in the state since the first of those charters was from Rutersville College in 1840 (five years earlier than Baylor). We also take pride that the Southwestern name is associated with the UT-Southwestern med school in Dallas. I have a book in one of my storage bins that provides a lot of interesting historical details from around the time Texas declared independence from Mexico to the mid-1980s when the book was written, including the split off of SMU from Southwestern. If I locate it, then I'll notify you and provide the title. The book is fascinating because one of the four predecessors (Soule Univ.) was on a slavery plantation in Clarksville and it also mentions the yellow fever epidemic in the 1860s that lead to the formation of Southwestern.

If SMU does decide to become independent from the Methodist conference, I wonder if they will rename the university? It seems like false advertising to include the word "Methodist" if there is no affiliation to the Methodist conference. Quick, come up with some alternative names... Highland Park University, (please not Laura Bush University or Kourtney Kardashian University)

DuckBurp

(302 posts)
5. I have seen nothing indicating that SMU would change its name.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:39 PM
Dec 2019

After all, it would still have a United Methodist theology school located there (Perkins). I would certainly not like to see it called Bush University.

Yes, let me know if you locate the book title. I recently read a book about the history of the Methodist church. Like other denominations, notable splits have taken place during its history.

TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
6. Will do.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:50 PM
Dec 2019

I'm at the point that purchasing bookshelves could be possible in the near future so hopefully I'll locate the book. I live with my brother and he doesn't appreciate the value of organization versus living with all of the possessions disorganized in plastic bins.

And since you mentioned the name, the chapel at Southwestern is dedicated as the Lois Perkins Chapel. It is a beautiful majestic limestone building that seats 800 and has large stained glass windows that pay tribute to leaders of the Methodist church. It's definitely worth a visit if you're in the Georgetown area.

https://www.southwestern.edu/life-at-southwestern/spiritual-and-religious-life/lois-perkins-chapel/

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