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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:11 AM May 2014

Wisconsin: Republican morons assert right to nullify federal laws, secede from Union

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquarter/proposed-gop-resolution-asserts-states-right-to-nullify-laws-secede-b99259782z1-257427991.html


In Wisconsin, the party of Abraham Lincoln will be deciding this weekend whether it favors not only the right to secession but also the right to nullify federal laws.

Delegates at the state Republican convention are set to vote Saturday on a proposed resolution that directs lawmakers to push through legislation nullifying Obamacare, Common Core educational standards and "drone usage in the state of Wisconsin."

"Be it further resolved," the proposal concludes, "that we strongly insist our state representatives work to uphold Wisconsin's 10th Amendment rights, and our right to, under extreme circumstances, secede, passing legislation affirming this to the U.S. Federal Government."

Republican officials had confirmed that the so-called "state sovereignty" resolution made it onto the agenda for the convention, which is being held in Milwaukee beginning Friday. But the wording of the actual resolution had not been made public.

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Wisconsin: Republican morons assert right to nullify federal laws, secede from Union (Original Post) Scuba May 2014 OP
bigot central dembotoz May 2014 #1
"right to nullify federal laws" rock May 2014 #2
Lovely. Laelth May 2014 #3
Article VI Bobcat May 2014 #4
We are living as an ALEC test case. Half-Century Man May 2014 #5
+ Eighty Gazillion Scuba May 2014 #6
Yes, with everthing they are doing CatholicEdHead May 2014 #14
Yup. It wouldn't matter if our dems were DLC or not AleksS May 2014 #16
i wonder unionthug777 May 2014 #7
re: the part about "nullify federal laws" -- isn't that exactly what CO and WA are doing? maggiesfarmer May 2014 #8
Colorado and Washington are declining to enforce federal law, which is their prerogative ... Scuba May 2014 #9
I missed the part about arresting federal officers in the linked article. maggiesfarmer May 2014 #11
It wasn't mentioned in the linked article. Scuba May 2014 #13
Here ya go ... Scuba May 2014 #18
"Republican morons" is redundant lutefisk May 2014 #10
As I have often said mysuzuki2 May 2014 #12
Just look at the ditwits like Glenn Grothman... Archae May 2014 #15
Exactly who are these people? Archae May 2014 #17

rock

(13,218 posts)
2. "right to nullify federal laws"
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:02 AM
May 2014

I thought we fought a war over this very issue and decided "nope".

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Lovely.
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:13 AM
May 2014

Didn't we have a war in the middle of the 19th Century over this question? Wasn't it settled at that time? Are these opportunists actually advocating fighting that war all over again?

If so, our history teachers have failed us miserably.

-Laelth

Bobcat

(246 posts)
4. Article VI
Thu May 1, 2014, 09:49 AM
May 2014

Article VI of the Constitution makes it very clear that federal law trumps state law. It is known as the supremacy clause. Subsequent court decisions have rejected the notion that states can nullify federal law. Only courts can nullify law.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
5. We are living as an ALEC test case.
Thu May 1, 2014, 10:33 AM
May 2014

The (state government) system appears to be rigged here. The Democrats seem to be in collusion with the republicans. I only know of a few who aren't DLC leaning.
We are the living embodiment of needing to get money out of politics.

CatholicEdHead

(9,740 posts)
14. Yes, with everthing they are doing
Thu May 1, 2014, 08:50 PM
May 2014

I would not say collusion as much as neutered and still in disarray from the 2010 Tea Party Blitzkrieg and failed recall. Until then the GOP rules the state and can push any and all ALEC/Koch test cases they want. How fast can Wisconsin change into Wississippi?

Along with the ground game in the area that brought this succession request (greater WI-6 State Senate area I have read, somewhere East Central WI). It is also a Dominionist Christian test case in the state. How can the US be changed into a open feudal state, WI is one of their test cases to go from a blue to deep red state. From restricted laws in voting to overall civics, a return of more open racism which is less and less veiled, to the Prosperity Theology at those Domionist churches that make having money the end all.

It is more than just law change, it is a extreme change in our society test case.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
16. Yup. It wouldn't matter if our dems were DLC or not
Fri May 2, 2014, 10:17 AM
May 2014

2010 spanked WI so hard, and the RWNJ's elected put so much emphasis on the NJ part of RWNJ, that for another year it's theirs to play with however they want. WI voters gave them the state, lock stock and barrel, and these rethugs are determined to make sure to absolutely destroy it before they have to give it back.

maggiesfarmer

(297 posts)
8. re: the part about "nullify federal laws" -- isn't that exactly what CO and WA are doing?
Thu May 1, 2014, 05:11 PM
May 2014

very different DU reaction over what appears to be the same issue -- whether or not states can ignore federal law.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
9. Colorado and Washington are declining to enforce federal law, which is their prerogative ...
Thu May 1, 2014, 06:05 PM
May 2014

Here in Wisconsin, there has been talk of arresting federal officers who try to enforce federal law, implementing the ACA for example.

I'm not aware that Colorado or Washington has threatened to arrest any federal officers.

Interesting point, though, and a fine one at that.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
18. Here ya go ...
Sat May 3, 2014, 09:48 AM
May 2014
http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2014/05/scott-walker-is-whistling-dixie.html


Nine Republican members of the Wisconsin Legislature say they would back a bill to arrest any federal officials who attempt to implement President Obama's signature health care law in the state.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that the nine state lawmakers told the Tea Party-aligned Campaign For Liberty that they support authorizing "state and local law enforcement to arrest federal officials attempting to implement the unconstitutional health scheme known as Obamacare."

One of the nine lawmakers backing Campaign for Liberty's proposal is state representative Chris Kapenga (R-Delafield), who told the Journal Sentinel that he believes the health care law is unconstitutional.

lutefisk

(3,974 posts)
10. "Republican morons" is redundant
Thu May 1, 2014, 06:26 PM
May 2014

If one chooses to label oneself a Republican, one owns the label "moron", too.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
12. As I have often said
Thu May 1, 2014, 06:48 PM
May 2014

These are the yahoos who sat in the back and slept through their high school American history class.

Archae

(46,322 posts)
15. Just look at the ditwits like Glenn Grothman...
Fri May 2, 2014, 05:21 AM
May 2014

Who wants to run for Tom Petri's seat.

Obama and his SoT "upset God" by being against Uganda's jail for life anti-gay bill.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/glenn-grothman-god_n_5234401.html

Archae

(46,322 posts)
17. Exactly who are these people?
Fri May 2, 2014, 09:26 PM
May 2014

Not just a generic "the republicans" or "the teabaggers."

Exactly who are these people, by name?

I expect to see Glenn Grothman's name on this list.

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