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Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:53 PM May 2017

I'm seeing ad after ad after ad, trashing Tammy Baldwin on T.V.

and not one reply from our party. What is the Democratic Party doing to help us protect Tammy and rid ourselves of Walker? Anything? Are we going to run 2 or 3 ads next year and expect that they will overcome months of these daily ads?

Where does the money go that we donate to the DNC or DCCC? To other states? Apparently, Wisconsin has been thrown to the wolves/repukes.

I'm fucking fed up.

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I'm seeing ad after ad after ad, trashing Tammy Baldwin on T.V. (Original Post) Greybnk48 May 2017 OP
Can you contact the Dem party HQ in Wisconsin? The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #1
No, I haven't yet. But it's incredible how Greybnk48 May 2017 #5
Like you,grew up in Sconny, Wellstone ruled May 2017 #7
It's a Pac using the money almost exclusively of an Illinois millionaire. Greybnk48 May 2017 #8
Oh crap,know of those people. Wellstone ruled May 2017 #12
Hmmmm. Didn't know that. Thanks. N/t Greybnk48 May 2017 #14
People won't remember a single add they saw now Phoenix61 May 2017 #2
No no no. This is how propaganda works - repetition american_ideals May 2017 #4
That's what they did with Hillary kimbutgar May 2017 #10
Yes. american_ideals May 2017 #13
That's not how it's worked in the past! The ads work! Greybnk48 May 2017 #6
Russ Feingold, get in gear american_ideals May 2017 #3
Democratic party in WI. is pretty much useless in messaging. old guy May 2017 #9
It's ridiculous! n/t Greybnk48 May 2017 #16
Send your money directly to Baldwin or thru actblue. NCjack May 2017 #11
I will, and I have been doing that for several months now, Greybnk48 May 2017 #15
It is reasonable to expect groups like DNC and DGA to NCjack May 2017 #17
send it to tammy...cut out the middle man dembotoz May 2017 #18
We saw a pro-Tammy ad last night dragonlady May 2017 #19
Sponsors of the ad dragonlady May 2017 #20
Finally! My sister called me about it too! Greybnk48 May 2017 #21

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
1. Can you contact the Dem party HQ in Wisconsin?
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:57 PM
May 2017

Maybe they can tell you what's going on. I'm next door in MN (and originally from WI) and have been watching what's going on there with dismay. I don't know why the DNC seems to be ignoring WI but it sure didn't help in the last election. Getting rid of Walker would be a real triumph. He's awful.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
5. No, I haven't yet. But it's incredible how
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:06 PM
May 2017

lethargic and luke warm the party seems to be here for years. I'm sick of marching and donating for nothing.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Like you,grew up in Sconny,
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:13 PM
May 2017

move to Minny. Questioned the DNC mid Summer last year,there reply was,well we have only some much money to work with. Reply,well we can kiss Russ Fiengold and that came to pass.

Sounds like the Bradley and Koch Foundations are running most of these ads.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Oh crap,know of those people.
Tue May 23, 2017, 03:16 PM
May 2017

Thanks for the heads up,did not know they were the Catholic Money Bags behind Johnson. Remember these folks names popped up when the Milwaukee Dioceses were under investigation years back.

Talk about right Wing Demagogues.

Phoenix61

(16,992 posts)
2. People won't remember a single add they saw now
Tue May 23, 2017, 12:58 PM
May 2017

by the election. When running a marathon, those who sprint at the start tend to finish last. You want to have enough left to sprint at the end.

american_ideals

(613 posts)
4. No no no. This is how propaganda works - repetition
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:01 PM
May 2017

In propaganda, you slowly change people's minds by repeating the same thing over and over again.
They may not remember the ad, but they'll remember the idea.

Goebbels has some great quotes about this. And this repetition is the reason Fox and right wing radio has brainwashed so many people.


Progressives need to fight back against this propaganda.

kimbutgar

(21,048 posts)
10. That's what they did with Hillary
Tue May 23, 2017, 02:01 PM
May 2017

They brainwashed the negativity in their minds.

She needs to counter this immediately to stop the programming. The rehtug packs have it down as a science now.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
6. That's not how it's worked in the past! The ads work!
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:08 PM
May 2017

Especially if there is no response. They build a narrative against Tammy, or for Walker BEFORE the campaign even starts. If we never learn from past experience we're screwed.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
9. Democratic party in WI. is pretty much useless in messaging.
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:40 PM
May 2017

Too many candidates are strictly on their own.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
15. I will, and I have been doing that for several months now,
Tue May 23, 2017, 06:47 PM
May 2017

sending money directly to candidates via Act Blue. But My question lingers. Does the Democratic party totally suck in every State? That seems to be the case and I cannot figure out why. Liberals out-number the radical right (formerly conservatives) in this country, why are we so weak? It's really pissing me off.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
17. It is reasonable to expect groups like DNC and DGA to
Tue May 23, 2017, 08:34 PM
May 2017

a. peel off a percentage of every contribution for expenses and analysis contractors;
b. triage the pleas of candidates for help. Those judged to be too weak to win will not get support.

So, you as a donor will get the maximum bang for your buck by giving to your candidates directly or through actblue.

dembotoz

(16,784 posts)
18. send it to tammy...cut out the middle man
Wed May 24, 2017, 11:31 AM
May 2017

also see if her website has bumper stickers and t-shirts


if you are going to state convention i am sure there will be tammy stuff to get....

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
19. We saw a pro-Tammy ad last night
Thu May 25, 2017, 05:59 PM
May 2017

It was on during Jeopardy! Didn't catch who paid for the ad, but will try to find out if it appears again tonight.

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