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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 11:19 AM Jun 2012

Wisconsin: Walker's attack on the Wisconsin Retirement System is now underway

from my email...


Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news on a lovely Wisconsin weekend, but assaults on the Wisconsin Retirement System by conservative groups are really heating up. Those of us who have been working hard to preserve the WRS have been curious as to what logic Governor Walker would use to attack our world class pension system. Now we know. In an op-ed piece printed in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on May 31, the conservative Heritage Foundation makes Walker’s case using two principal reasons to justify dismantling WRS while conveniently omitting crucial facts which completely refute their arguments.

Many thanks to WRS annuitant and online contact Patrick Murphy for the following information he included in a rebuttal letter to the MJS (which may never be printed). Patrick writes:

In their op-ed piece, the Heritage Foundation incorrectly claims:

1. Taxpayers pay for the WRS.

2. Investment projections are too high, leading to higher future liabilities than what plan administrators report.

Their conclusion is that public employee pension expenses will fall back on taxpayers.

What is correct:

1. When public employees receive pay for their service, it ceases to be their employer’s (taxpayer’s) money. Public employees actually divert some of their pay to the WRS for, of all things, retirement.

2. The “proper” financial methods which the Heritage Foundation claims should be used serve only theirs, and Walker’s, conservative ideology.

Articles in the Government Financial Review, National Association of State Retirement Administrators as well as Governing all state that the assumption of a return of 8% is valid for pension plans, which are expected to be long-term investments. Furthermore, using a risk-free estimate (suggested by Heritage and other conservative groups) will result in OVER-FUNDING of pension plans.

What the Heritage Foundation omitted:

Wisconsin, historically, has built into the WRS self-correcting measures for when investment times are bad:

1. Actual retirement payments TO RETIREES can be reduced, and currently are being reduced.

2. Employee contributions can be increased, and currently are being increased, even beyond Act10 requirements.

My conclusion is that it is very likely that NO pension expense in Wisconsin will fall back to the taxpayer unless there is a COMPLETE collapse of the US economy, in which case ALL bets are off for anything.

The Heritage op-ed offers a self-serving and misleading report for Walker to dismantle our national model public employee retirement system. It uses misinformation and omits relevant data that refutes their desired result.

Patrick Murphy, WRS Annuitant

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Wisconsin: Walker's attack on the Wisconsin Retirement System is now underway (Original Post) Scuba Jun 2012 OP
Thanks Scuba ewagner Jun 2012 #1
D*mn it, I knew this was going to happen..... a kennedy Jun 2012 #2
I think there has been too much emphasis on Walker's attack on unions, not that that is not evil.... northoftheborder Jun 2012 #3
I hope all of the state employees understand the consequences of Walker continuing as Governor. LiberalFighter Jun 2012 #4
Came across this memo by Mike Huebsch regarding the retirement study..... a kennedy Jun 2012 #5

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
3. I think there has been too much emphasis on Walker's attack on unions, not that that is not evil....
Sat Jun 2, 2012, 12:58 PM
Jun 2012

....but all his other attacks on the pensions, give away of public assets, etc... all need to be thrown out there for judgement by voters.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
5. Came across this memo by Mike Huebsch regarding the retirement study.....
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 09:05 AM
Jun 2012
http://etf.wi.gov/news/doa-msg-wrs-study.pdf and don't ya love this part......"Governor Walker and I appreciate the contributions of all Wisconsin's current and former state employees. We are committed to making sure the pension fund remains sound and pension benefits remain intact." What a crock of dung. Ugh.
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