Rain pounds Toronto, leaves stranded train in need of rescue

[shockedcanadian]

Some serious stuff going on in T.O, they needed to evacuate a train out here due to the flooding etc. Scary and unusual weather in the most unusual places of late...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2013/07/08/toronto-weather-heavy-rain.html

[TheMastersNemesis]

1. There Is No Global Warming - This Is Just Normal Weather Change. Not Man Caused> LOL

[shockedcanadian]

2. Obviously global warming exists,

The problem is the conflicting data and self serving politically driven results provided by some scientists. Funding too often trumps truth so sadly it is nearly impossible to know who to trust.

I do know this though from viewing the despair of a polar bear who was forced to swim many more miles due to the ice melting and lack of food, that this issue needs to be addressed...though I would argue the damage done by much bigger violators such as China, dwarfs anything we could ever produce.

[Locut0s]

5. The data isn't conflicting though, people just don't understand it...

The data is very clear, the past few decades have been the warmest decades in recorded history and the warmest in tens of thousands of years. The warming is also the sharpest rise we have ever seen recorded! The fact that there is a lot of fluctuation and uncertainty over short time spans is just about statistics and weather works.

[laundry_queen]

6. Lots of people don't understand

that global warming also includes large increases in moisture in the atmosphere and that means more rain and snow. I've noticed this year forecasters are having a heck of a time predicting the obscene amounts of rain coming from these storms. Look at Calgary - the amount of rain was vastly underestimated. Same thing in Toronto. Here in Edmonton, it seems even small storms are producing huge cloud bursts that flood basements. I grew up here - there was very little basement flooding (except for 1987's tornado/storm) overall - maybe every few years in isolated pockets. In the last 15 years it's accelerated. in 1997 my parents' basement flooded for the first time. Luckily, there was a drainage ditch dug to a nearby retention pond (the ditch is right in front of their house). Since then, there are houses on block that have flooded several times. In the last 3 years, every summer basements are flooding. Our town (I'm in a suburb) has now built several retention ponds in every new subdivision, and that has saved the new homes any issues. But the older areas have problems every summer. When I was growing up, even in '87 there wasn't flooding. I didn't know anyone who had ever had a flooded basement in our area. Now it's routine.

The amount of snow is also getting insane in the winter. Never was there snow like that when I was growing up. By the end of winter, there is simply no where to put it.

Because we haven't had a lot of hot weather, people are lulled into a sense of complacency - except for those who understand what these summer storms indicate.

[shockedcanadian]

3. check out the photos...

http://www.thestar.com/photos/2013/07/08/flooded_train_rescue.html

[Joe Shlabotnik]

4. Dammit that just proves it!

People should be shipped via pipeline instead of train !!111!1!!