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True Dough

(17,090 posts)
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 07:37 PM Feb 2017

1 in 4 Canucks favor Trump-style travel ban

And another 41% say they want refugee settlement to slow in Canada. At least the majority are pleased with Canada's refugee efforts and/or want them to be ramped up.

That said, the comments at the bottom of the story are mostly from the vocal minority.

A "significant segment" of Canadians say Canada's 2017 refugee target of 40,000 is too high, while one in four Canadians wants the Liberal government to impose its own Trump-style travel ban.

Those are just two of the findings in a new Angus Reid Institute poll that looked at Canadians' attitudes toward the federal government's handling of refugees.

"We tend to, when we are looking at numbers, look at the majority view. But the fact that one in four Canadians are of the mind that we should be looking to our own travel ban is significant and is part of a red flag that is starting to emerge in terms of refugee policy," said Shachi Kurl, executive director of the Angus Reid Institute.

Overall, 47 per cent of Canadians surveyed said Canada is taking in the right number of refugees, while 11 per cent said 40,000 is too low and Canada should take in more. But 41 per cent say the 2017 target is too high and fewer refugees should be allowed to enter the country.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/syrian-refugees-poll-trump-1.3988716
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1 in 4 Canucks favor Trump-style travel ban (Original Post) True Dough Feb 2017 OP
I'm surprised shenmue Feb 2017 #1
sorry Afromania Feb 2017 #2
1 of 4 is a small minority Sanity Claws Feb 2017 #3
We recently had a thread based on a news story about a protest outside of a Toronto mosque True Dough Feb 2017 #4
There were about 8 million out of 80 million Nazi's in Germany. gordianot Feb 2017 #5
its the same 25% as here...and will be less after the reduction process.. samnsara Feb 2017 #7
Along that same line of thought, I had dinner this past weekend MontanaMama Feb 2017 #6
Glad you set them straight MontanaMama True Dough Feb 2017 #8
Yes TD, we ended the visit amiably MontanaMama Feb 2017 #9
It's amazing True Dough Feb 2017 #10

Sanity Claws

(21,822 posts)
3. 1 of 4 is a small minority
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 07:51 PM
Feb 2017

The headline really is 3 of 4 are against such a ban.
The writer is trying to give this small minority more significance than they merit.

True Dough

(17,090 posts)
4. We recently had a thread based on a news story about a protest outside of a Toronto mosque
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:07 PM
Feb 2017

That protest only involved an estimated 12 to 15 people.

This story indicates, based on extrapolation, that about 8.5 million Canadians like what Trump is doing with his immigration ban. That's definitely significant.

And I would deem 1 in 4 (or 25%) to be a "sizable minority" as opposed to a "small minority." 1 in 10 would be a "small minority," IMO.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
5. There were about 8 million out of 80 million Nazi's in Germany.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:11 PM
Feb 2017

By the end of the war Nazi party membership was down.

MontanaMama

(23,238 posts)
6. Along that same line of thought, I had dinner this past weekend
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 08:12 PM
Feb 2017

With a Canadian couple who came down to our business in Montana to purchase some product that we manufacture. It was interesting that as residents of Alberta, they were supportive of 45's election solely because of his support for the DAPL because it would be good for jobs up there. They were very surprised at our fierce opposition to it. When I brought up the known environmental risks of the pipeline for the Missouri River watershed, they stated they'd never even thought about that. Can you imagine? Further, they talked about how much they hated Justin Trudeau because he was "liberal". When the conversation turned to healthcare, both of these people were huge proponents of the Canadian healthcare system. I pointed out that state run healthcare is a "liberal" policy in every sense and they got all bent out of shape. I told them to be careful what they wished for...our insurance premium for a healthy family of three is $1322 per month and we have conservative policies to thank for that. They were horrified. I guess Canada has their share of folks who employ faulty logic just like we do here.

True Dough

(17,090 posts)
8. Glad you set them straight MontanaMama
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 09:58 PM
Feb 2017

And you hopefully still sold your product to them despite their misguided political leanings! Alberta is Conservative country. They just elected a lefty government (the New Democrats) in 2015 for the first time in several decades. The Conservatives rode high on HUGE oil profits that made Alberta the economic envy of the rest of Canada up until oil prices went bust a few years ago. Then it became painfully obvious that the Conservatives failed to impose higher taxes when the good times were rolling and never created much of a "rainy day" fund, so the funds on the sidelines were quickly absorbed.

Of course many Conservative supporters are trying to pass the blame onto the New Democrats, but they inherited a MESS (not a Donald Trump fictional mess, but a real mess). It's deficits that are the reality now.

MontanaMama

(23,238 posts)
9. Yes TD, we ended the visit amiably
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 11:47 AM
Feb 2017

and they happily loaded their vehicle and drove away. I appreciate our customers north of the border - we have a lot of them! I believe you're correct about Alberta being conservative. When I stop and think about it, they seem much more so than the folks I work with from BC. I only have a few customers from Ontario and one from SK. We all agree that NAFTA makes all of our work more difficult at least from a paperwork point of view and makes customs brokers wealthy in Canada. Regardless, I don't want DFT to touch NAFTA because I can't imagine he would make it better - everything he touches turns to $h!t.

True Dough

(17,090 posts)
10. It's amazing
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 02:59 PM
Feb 2017

how different the politics are between the neighboring provinces of Alberta and B.C. British Columbia. Although, as I mentioned, Alberta recently went with the New Democrats after several decades of Conservative rule, the Conservative party is practically non-existent in B.C. and hasn't been for a long time. As a matter of fact, the Conservatives don't even have an acting party leader in the province.

There is a provincial election coming up in May in B.C. As usual, it's a battle between the New Democrats and the incumbent Liberals.

And I agree with you, Drumpf is very unlikely to improve upon NAFTA, even though it has its share of drawbacks.

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