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Political satire just died of an overdose (Original Post) LeftishBrit Jun 2016 OP
| underpants Jun 2016 #1
Love it! The New Yorker! The Ministry of Silly Walks! longship Jun 2016 #3
K & R n/t TubbersUK Jun 2016 #2
Law of Unintended Consequences. Hope the idiot will see his creation be the catalyst for Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #4
Yes indeed. GoneOffShore Jun 2016 #5
Why have modern democracies opted for "representational government" Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #6
Agreed PatSeg Jun 2016 #7
On a serious note, Matilda Jun 2016 #8

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. Love it! The New Yorker! The Ministry of Silly Walks!
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jun 2016

One absolutely has to have the original.

Here:


 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Law of Unintended Consequences. Hope the idiot will see his creation be the catalyst for
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

a second, successful remain vote.

GoneOffShore

(17,309 posts)
5. Yes indeed.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jun 2016

Though referenda are almost always stupid.
Germany has the right idea. Ban them outright.

If you want to change policy, pressure your representatives and if that doesn't work, vote in people who will.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Why have modern democracies opted for "representational government"
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

rather than direct popular rule?

This shitstorm is a classic answer to that question.

PatSeg

(46,773 posts)
7. Agreed
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jun 2016

Having lived in California, I have a very low opinion of ballot initiatives. They were intentionally difficult to understand and were almost always started by corporate interests or special interest groups as in the case of Prop 8 in 2008. I remember seeing signs in 2008 implying that Prop 8 was about education or free speech. I received flyers that implied that Barack Obama supported Prop 8 insuring support from the African American community.

We elect people to legislate and like you say, if they don't work out, you elect someone else. Most people don't have the time or the resources to make major legislative decisions.

This is the flyer I received two or three times.

[url=https://flic.kr/p/5zDMKY][img]?zz=1[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/5zDMKY]Prop 8a[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/9005871@N04/]Pat[/url], on Flickr

Matilda

(6,384 posts)
8. On a serious note,
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jun 2016

perhaps a 60% target should have been set. Whichever way it went, a solid vote was necessary to maintain stability. As it is now, almost half the country is in disagreement with the vote and deeply unhappy.

It seems the referendum has created an enormous division, and ending a few political careers as well, which I'm sure nobody foresaw. Seems they didn't think much about consequences at all; just took it for granted it would be a Remain vote and all would somehow be well at the end.

What an unholy mess it's turned out to be.

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