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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:37 AM Jun 2016

The shadow cabinet ministers resigning to topple Corbyn have one embarrassing thing in common

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/27/shadow-cabinet-ministers-resigning-topple-corbyn-one-embarrassing-thing-common/

The shadow cabinet ministers resigning to attack Jeremy Corbyn all share something quite embarrassing – they have abysmal voting records.

Hence, the exodus should be welcomed by both Labour supporters and the wider public. Here’re a few of the worst decisions made by those resigning:

Voted in favour of the 2003 Iraq war

The Iraq war further destabilised the region, led to the death of around 1 million Iraqis and provided fertile ground for the rise of extremist groups such as ISIS (Daesh). It was based on Tony Blair’s “dodgy dossier” – a fabrication that has made the former Prime Minister a fortune.

Corbyn acknowledged it was a terrible idea, and vehemently opposed the war.

Meanwhile, the following MPs, who have just walked out the shadow cabinet, voted in favour of that absolute catastrophe:

Hilary Benn
Angela Eagle
Vernon Coaker
Chris Bryant
John Healey
Maria Eagle

Voted for airstrikes in Syria, December 2015

Last December, MPs voted in favour of joining the US-led bombing coalition against Daesh in Syria. Calls from an emotional Francois Hollande in the wake of the Paris terror attacks seemed to be the motive, rather than a clear endgame. The Syrian war is extremely complicated – there are dozens of prominent oppositional factions. But, not one supporter of the airstrikes could tell us what victory looked like.

Despite the lack of a coherent strategy, the following outgoing shadow cabinet members endangered both British troops and Syrians through voting to launch the bombing campaign:

Heidi Alexander
Hilary Benn
Lucy Powell
Gloria De Piero
Chris Bryant
Angela Eagle
Maria Eagle
Vernon Coaker

Voting for the Iraq war and to launch a reckless airstrike campaign in Syria are threats to our national security.

Since we began the “war on terror” in 2001, terrorist attacks have soared by 6500%, according to data from the US state department. Analysis from journalist Paul Gottinger showed a direct trend between US military intervention and increased terrorism. 74% of terror casualties happened in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan or Nigeria in 2014. US air strikes or military occupations were undertaken in all of these countries except Nigeria in that year.
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The shadow cabinet ministers resigning to topple Corbyn have one embarrassing thing in common (Original Post) Ken Burch Jun 2016 OP
More... Ken Burch Jun 2016 #1
"Hey chaps, I think I know where we can get the money for the NHS from after all!" Nihil Jun 2016 #2
Well, yeah ... Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #3
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
1. More...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:39 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.thecanary.co/2016/06/27/shadow-cabinet-ministers-resigning-topple-corbyn-one-embarrassing-thing-common/

Voted to replace Trident

Trident is the appropriation of potentially £100bn of public funds towards weapons of mass murder, that could be used on essential public services. A report from the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) states:

We could employ 150,000 new nurses, build 1.5 million affordable homes or pay the tuition fees for 4 million students. 2 million jobs could be created, rather than the 7,000 currently sustained by spending £100 billion on nuclear weapons.

The weapon system amounts to a sentimental throwback to when Britain was a global power. It is totally useless, as Peter Sinclair tweeted:

Either you press the nuclear button first – which would be mad. Or you press it in retaliation – in which case it wasn’t a deterrent.

None of this stopped the following exiting shadow cabinet ministers from voting for its renewal:

Hilary Benn
Angela Eagle
Owen Smith
Maria Eagle
Lucy Powell
Kerry McCarthy
Seema Malhotra
Heidi Alexander
Gloria De Piero
Chris Bryant
Vernon Coaker
Karl Turner
John Healey

Such thoughtless voting on crucial foreign policy matters is both a waste of money and dangerous to our national security. Considering Corbyn would only maintain or increase his mandate in the face of a leadership election, this mainly Blairite exodus amounts to nothing but an embarrassing tantrum.

A large portion of these MPs have been reckless with foreign policy. Both Labour supporters and the wider public should celebrate their departure from the shadow cabinet.
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Nihil

(13,508 posts)
2. "Hey chaps, I think I know where we can get the money for the NHS from after all!"
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jun 2016

> Trident is the appropriation of potentially £100bn of public funds towards
> weapons of mass murder, that could be used on essential public services.

There is not a single one on that list who will be missed (except by their cronies
and the lobbyists who used to rely on them). Good riddance.

Denzil_DC

(7,216 posts)
3. Well, yeah ...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jun 2016

a few spanners in the works there!

We've discussed the ramifications for Trident and the Trident replacement of Scottish independence on here before. It's, erm, messy.

The drop in the pound means that the sky's the limit for the next budget estimate, even more so than it already was. Massive US involvement there, so we're hostage to the pound:dollar exchange rate.

That Trident replacement parliamentary debate Cameron was hoping to hammer Labour with PDQ if the UK had voted Remain should be enormous fun!

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