British fishermen warned brexit will not mean greater catches

[TubbersUK]

They were so just making it up as they went along:

British fishermen have been warned that, despite the promises made by the leave campaign, they cannot expect to be granted greater catches after the UK leaves the European Union, and they may face increased economic turmoil.

Fishermen will have to remain within their current catch quotas while the UK is still a member, and even if new arrangements are negotiated after a Brexit, they will not necessarily be more generous, fisheries chiefs and campaigners have warned.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jun/28/british-fishermen-warned-brexit-will-not-mean-greater-catches

[LeftishBrit]

1. There is an American book called 'Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them'...

I think a British edition of that is badly needed.

[Surya Gayatri]

4. Former comedian, now Sen. Al Franken wrote that...maybe he could ghost-write a UK edition?

[geardaddy]

10. Al's my senator.

I remember when he wrote that one and Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot

[DetlefK]

2. And the EU-subsidies for those underdeveloped coastal regions? Will be gone.

[truebrit71]

3. Or made up for by money from Westminster...

...yeah, sorry, I couldn't help myself...

Just like the idiots in Cornwall that voted to leave the EU, but still want the equivalent money they received from the EU to come from Westminster. Sorry chaps, but we're in 'austerity mode', no £££ for you...

[Surya Gayatri]

5. And, the hits just keep coming...where the hell was the media during the lead-up to the vote?

Where was the investigative journalism required to debunk all of the Brexit Bandit's lies?

Looks like the Brexit believers just swallowed anything they were force fed.

What a monumental mess.

[TubbersUK]

6. Polly Toynbee made the same point today

Where was the media, why didn't they call Brexit out on their planning vacumn ?

It was a dereliction of duty.

[Surya Gayatri]

7. This all makes me SO sad. I'm a true anglophile, and worked with

Brits all of my active life. Seeing this self-punishing decline of the UK just leaves me gutted.

Curse them all--Cameron, Johnson, Farage, Gove and above all, Murdock and his empire of media mendacity.

[Blue_Adept]

8. but would they believe "the establishment" that wanted the status quo?

Some folks you just can't convince of anything. They want what they want.

[The Animator]

9. Okay, having read ge article I can see

that this is about quotas. Just reading the headline I was left thinking...

Did someone seriously have to explain to people that a leave vote wasn't going to increase the number of fish in the ocean? Or automatically make them better fishermen?

[Denzil_DC]

12. It was more that the simplistic argument was made

that the EU meant we had to operate a quota system in our territorial waters, which are heavily fished by the Spanish etc., so if we "took back control", we could put an end to that. It's like all the other issues you see us posting about at the moment where it's unravelled pretty much as soon as the result was announced.

It isn't that simple. Some of the quotas are historic, enshrined in international law, and we can't just do away with them, in or out of the EU.

The fishing industry in the UK (60% of it is Scottish-based with 8% of the population) has had a very poor deal over the years. Much of the blame for that lies with the UK government, which has done a piss-poor job of fighting our corner because they haven't prioritized our fisheries industries, tending to use them as bargaining chips for other things they considered more important.

[Sunlei]

11. They may have two years until any EU fishing treaties are canceled. EU website has all information.

Unless fishing rights were part of last Februarys agreements, 'UK settlement'?

"The terms of the UK Settlement agreed at the European Council of 18-19 February 2016 have ceased to exist."

http://europa.eu/newsroom/home_en

look under 'questions & answers for the short info.